Oak Island Factual (proven/documented) Information

[ECS]

They don't believe their nonsense is real....they are hoping others think their nonsense is real....

I wouldn't be so sure about that, SW, with all the zealous references made to the pseudo history nonsense of fringe writers Muir, Halpern, Amundsen, Wilson & Blackett, Pennington and all, seem to be posted by true believers of these alternative fabricated fantasies.

 

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[Singlestack Wonder]

None of the "true believers" have ever accepted the challenge of coming to this thread and posting proof of their "finds"....

 

[franklin]

Just who exactly are you bunch of kooks that anyone has to prove anything to?

 

[Smithbrown]

Franklin, it is getting a little boring- all this "you'll be sorry" endlessly, Just put us out of our misery and prove yourself- when are you going to announce the solution to the mystery? Today? Tomorrow? Next week? Just give us the date, Franklin, no shilly-shallying. Just a date.

 

[ECS]

Just who exactly are you bunch of kooks that anyone has to prove anything to?

Exactly the "bunch of kooks" that know statements like your:
"There were 70,000 or more Welsh came to this continent in AD575 aboard 700 ships. Now that is a fact".

are NOT fact, but are fraudulent fake fabricated fringe fantasies with NO real proven or documented supporting source.
The actual "bunch of kooks" label, Franklin, are those who make outrageous outlandish claims of obvious fictional historical events as fact, that always get upset when evidence and proof are requested, resulting with name calling, but NEVER is any evidence or proof proffered.
The reason for such vehement reticence is quite obvious to even the casual reader of these threads.
'NUFF SAID!

 

[Smithbrown]

Still waiting for that important announcement? Today? Tomorrow? Next week? Next month? Next year? Getting to be a race between your announcement and Loki's book- so many years in the making...

 

[franklin]

Wait for it.

 

[ECS]

... You should have at least checked out the thousands of references that Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett have in their books.
You would then know they are scholars of impeccable characters with a great achievement to mankind.
But you all believe the way you want.

When an educated reader "checks out" the references in the Wilson & Blackett books they are quick to notice all the mislabeled and misidentified illustrations used to "prove" their misinformation nonsense fringe claims.
The most glaring are the English church wall paintings of the Martyrdom of ST Edmund, which they claim depicts King Arthur being killed by Native Americans in 6th century Kentucky.
These charlatans are indeed characters profiting off the easily impressed gullible who buy their books and believe they are among the "special" few who by reading this secret suppressed history know the truth.

 

[franklin]

If you knew anything that you talked about you would be dangerous.

 

[ECS]

If you knew anything that you talked about you would be dangerous.

It appears that you know nothing about what you talk about, and that is why you find requests for factual proof dangerous.
You do realize that those St Edmund English church wall paintings are NOT King Arthur being killed in Kentucky by Native Americans as claimed by Wilson & Blackett, or do you?

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Obviously the typical suspects have no evidence or actual facts regarding their hoax island treasure “finds”.

If they did actually find something why would they not bask in the glory of one of the greatest finds since Howard Carter opened King Tut’s tomb?

International recognition, book deals, tv deals, paid speaking engagements, going down in history as one of the greatest treasure hunters in history, etc. would just be the start.

Nah.....they are just trying to get a book deal with the fiction they continue to spew. Perhaps just jealous of other fiction writers who actually became successful with their fictional stories?

There’s a reason they never come forward with any proof that they found treasures (or anything else for that matter).

 

[ECS]

Still waiting for that important announcement? Today? Tomorrow? Next week? Next month? Next year? Getting to be a race between your announcement and Loki's book- so many years in the making...

I'm still waiting for Franklin to describe the type of vessels the Welsh had in 574AD that could sail across the Atlantic and where there was a 6th century Welsh shipbuilding operation where 700 of these vessels were built that carried 70,000 Welsh Franklin claimed sailed to North America in 574AD.
Maybe he will list the locations of those 100,000 burial mounds the Welsh built in North America.

 

[gazzahk]

Wait for it.

Ha ha...

 

[ECS]

Wait for it.

While we wait for "it", let us discuss the alleged ships in Franklin's November 18, 2020 quote:
"There were 70,000 or more Welsh came to this continent in AS574 aboard 700 ships. Now that is a fact".

During the 6th century the vessel used by the Welsh, Irish, Scots, and British were currachs, with two versions- a small open 15 foot vessel, oar powered used on rivers and lakes, and the larger 30 foot coastal version which had a solid deck, single mast at center with a square sail and oar powered.
The currach's hull frame was wood and woven wicker covered in ox hides sealed with tar, and its weight capacity included a crew of 10 at most and basic supplies and cargo, and as mentioned was used for off shore coastal runs.
The 6th century Welsh did not possess vessels that could transport 100+ men, their supplies, tools, treasure, etc across the Atlantic.
"Now that is a fact"
"NUFF SAID!

 

[franklin]

While we wait for "it", let us discuss the alleged ships in Franklin's November 18, 2020 quote:
"There were 70,000 or more Welsh came to this continent in AS574 aboard 700 ships. Now that is a fact".

During the 6th century the vessel used by the Welsh, Irish, Scots, and British were currachs, with two versions- a small open 15 foot vessel, oar powered used on rivers and lakes, and the larger 30 foot coastal version which had a solid deck, single mast at center with a square sail and oar powered.
The currach's hull frame was wood and woven wicker covered in ox hides sealed with tar, and its weight capacity included a crew of 10 at most and basic supplies and cargo, and as mentioned was used for off shore coastal runs.
The 6th century Welsh did not possess vessels that could transport 100+ men, their supplies, tools, treasure, etc across the Atlantic.
"Now that is a fact"
"NUFF SAID!

Bull****

 

[ECS]

Bull****

That remark only supports the fact that you don't have any knowledge or evidence concerning the type of vessel these alleged 700 ships you and Wilson & Blackett claim brought 70,000 Welsh to North America in the 6th century.
As you say, "Now that is a fact".
'NUFF SAID!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

As disorganized as the Welsh tribes were in 600 AD it does make you wonder who among them could have fielded 70,000 troops. Let alone floated then in stick and hide corracles. Or dared leave that much of a vacuum behind for the neighbors to take advantage of.

Truly the "cockleshell navy".

 

[franklin]

No one said they were all troops.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

You make your imaginary folk your way and I'dd do mine.

 

[ECS]

Can you really say what happened over 400 years ago with a certainty? ....

You claim to know what happened over 1400+ years with certainty constantly stating that all these Welsh who came to North America in AD574, but were not aware the only vessels the Welsh had in the 6th century were enlarged wicker baskets covered in tar coated ox hides that were not capable of holding 100 men, nor being able to cross the Atlantic.