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    Yes and no regarding "Sterling". That is 92.5% silver and 7.5% other metals. Copper sometimes, but zinc or germanium is also a n allow called "Sterling". Britanna Silver is 92.5% silver & 7.5% copper. No other metals.

    The discussion was on the copper alloys.


    Regarding Gary: I'd be a little more inclined to believe him if he was a little less of a cheerleader for his own finds and the significance of them. Also if he turned a bit more of the targets he is ignoring (which may have been dug in earlier takes and left/reburied). He's definitely boosting his finds to the audience. Always too sure that it is valuable. Never "might be" or "could be".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzahk View Post
    A new theory? The thread title is "Persistent Claims of a Hoax" so what do you mean by a "New Theory"

    it would seem the choices are a)It is a hoax, or b) is it not a hoax, or c) some parts of it are a hoax and other parts are real... What new theory can be offered?.....
    Lol now it's silver compositions, the red herring has struck.....

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    Not a hoax.

    From the start searches were using a copy of a Spanish origin treasure map. They are still using it today. The stories and reports all refer to it up until the 1960s when it was removed from the official story version. You can easily read the reports today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeman View Post
    From the start searches were using a copy of a Spanish origin treasure map. They are still using it today. The stories and reports all refer to it up until the 1960s when it was removed from the official story version. You can easily read the reports today.
    huh... Early reports DO NOT ever report people using a Spanish treasure map.. The earliest searchers were looking for pirate treasure (captain Kidd) Early Documents - Oak Island I have no idea what source you are using for this claim... I have never seen any written reports of anyone using a Spanish treasure map....
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    Dig a bit deeper and not just what is handed out for the TV show.

    Here's a copy of the (spanish origin) map published in 1934. The image shows how it was oriented (to north), scaled and physically laid out on the island from the start to determine where to dig. It's why Dan Blankenship used to say the treasure was of spanish origin. Green circle is the money pit.
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    It is talked about in all the original reports. Just ask Doug. They, like the map, are easy to find.

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    Didn't the legend claim so many had to die before the treasure was discovered? Who recently passed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeman View Post
    Dig a bit deeper and not just what is handed out for the TV show.

    Here's a copy of the (spanish origin) map published in 1934. The image shows how it was oriented (to north), scaled and physically laid out on the island from the start to determine where to dig. It's why Dan Blankenship used to say the treasure was of spanish origin. Green circle is the money pit.
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    It is talked about in all the original reports. Just ask Doug. They, like the map, are easy to find.

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    Read the original documents 1860s there is no reference to Spanish treasure maps.

    That map is in English...

    There is no mention of the map being a Spanish treasure map...

    There in no mention of D.McGinnis map being in Spanish that I have ever seen

    Of even greater interest was learning that George’s grandfather had an old treasure map that had been passed down in his family through the years. Imagine being able to look at an old Oak Island treasure map! I was very dismayed to learn that the map was lost in a house fire long ago. George says that they tried to recreate the map but never succeeded because “everything changed” and the landmarks were gone. This information may be supported by early accounts of the Money Pit discovery such as,"A Search for Pirate Gold" written in 1899 by James Clarence Hyde, which specifically mentions that Daniel McGinnis had been in possession of a treasure map.
    https://www.oakislandcompendium.ca/b...milys-treasure

    Where does the Spanish come from?

    The reports of an "alleged" treasure map are well after the first few search attempts... So how could it be the original reason?
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    Below is the earliest reference to a possible Spanish map that I am aware of and it is fringe at best.
    1906 - The Lure of the Pirate's Gold by Josephine Freda

    There is no mention of a Spanish map in the next link below, but it is a well-researched report linking Oak Island to the Spanish.
    1971 - The Spanish in Nova Scotia in the 16th Century: A Hint in the Oak Island Treasure Mystery by Ross Wilhelm
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    Speaking of treasure maps, there's this ancient treasure map from '79 . (1979, that is) I got it from the Oak Island gift shop in 1992. It was originally created and sold by The Book Room in Halifax, which closed in 2008 after 169 years of operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeN View Post
    Speaking of treasure maps, there's this ancient treasure map from '79 . (1979, that is) I got it from the Oak Island gift shop in 1992. It was originally created and sold by The Book Room in Halifax, which closed in 2008 after 169 years of operation.

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    Ill give ya 50 quid for the bloody map Mike!!! Arrrrrrr!!!!

 

 
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