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    Quote Originally Posted by macronova View Post
    Yeah that guy who says the spike is a 2000 yr old Roman Pilum totally lost all credibility. I mean what a completely ridiculous conclusion. Even the most optimistic characters in the room couldn't even bring themselves to fake belief or excitement. I guess its time to delete that guys phone number...
    I haven't seen this episode, but I'd be surprised if anyone on the crew believed that this artifact was Roman, including the person that identified it as such. A quick search on the internet would have provided a likelier answer. The fine folks on this forum have convinced me that it's from a gig of some sort, and I didn't even know what in the blue hell a gig was until I read this thread.

    Now put yourselves in the shoes of the people making this television show. Do you tell the audience that this is part of a frog gig that was commonly used in that part of the world, or do you have an "expert" excitedly proclaim that it's a Roman spear, which was never used in that part of the world? Which path produces the sort of television that's more interesting and exciting for the average viewer? Your job is to convince them to watch your show, not to educate them, and not to be honest.

    I don't blame the people that make these TV showers for being dishonest, just as I don't blame the producers of movies, novels, and other works of fiction for saying misleading and/or downright false things. They're entertainers that are selling a product that the public wants. I blame the dupes that believe everything that they see on TV - i.e., the public - for not thinking critically and eating this garbage up.
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    Hmmmm frog legs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Rishar View Post
    I haven't seen this episode, but I'd be surprised if anyone on the crew believed that this artifact was Roman, including the person that identified it as such. A quick search on the internet would have provided a likelier answer. The fine folks on this forum have convinced me that it's from a gig of some sort, and I didn't even know what in the blue hell a gig was until I read this thread.

    Now put yourselves in the shoes of the people making this television show. Do you tell the audience that this is part of a frog gig that was commonly used in that part of the world, or do you have an "expert" excitedly proclaim that it's a Roman spear, which was never used in that part of the world? Which path produces the sort of television that's more interesting and exciting for the average viewer? Your job is to convince them to watch your show, not to educate them, and not to be honest.

    I don't blame the people that make these TV showers for being dishonest, just as I don't blame the producers of movies, novels, and other works of fiction for saying misleading and/or downright false things. They're entertainers that are selling a product that the public wants. I blame the dupes that believe everything that they see on TV - i.e., the public - for not thinking critically and eating this garbage up.
    I think in the beginning they were really looking for something and the show was a little more serious/honest about everything. But afterwards they realized they had already struck gold with the television show and the circus show came to town. These guys may as well start wiping their behinds with wads of hundred dollar bills. They're blowing enormous amounts of cash left and right for nothing. But then again, clearly they're receiving a return on their investment from all the viewers. I just wish they'd get serious about actually locating and recovering real treasure. I guess it all depends on how long people can stay entertained by all the circus tricks.
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    While I would like to believe this is a part of a crossbow, they really need to send the item off to an expert to determine what it is before I'll accept it as such.
    Last edited by rowanns; Dec 08, 2018 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch Da Truth View Post
    First it was a Templar cross bolt, now a Roman spear. This keeps getting better and better.
    Cant wait till they drain the cove they will find stuff from the Dinosaurs. Maybe T Rex dug the flood tunnels and hid some Pterodactyl eggs in the MP for a late night snack.
    Not buying any of this but I do still watch for the entertainment factor.
    ...and, are WE forgetting the "Roman Sword"...? Yes, this is a REAL Reality Show....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyemustdigtreasure View Post
    ...and, are WE forgetting the "Roman Sword"...? Yes, this is a REAL Reality Show....!
    Totally! The real deal, real, reality show. I wanted to clear that up. Hehe.

    I still believe the real Roman sword was real. This cross will change history as well as all the other llocal trinkets they drop and find when they clear the cove and tear it up.

    Biggest reveal will be the box drains, totally in tact with 700+year old coconut fibers on top. Jack will climb in and crawl right into the MP and come back out with the chalice in hand! Can't wait... epi29!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch Da Truth View Post
    Totally! The real deal, real, reality show. I wanted to clear that up. Hehe.

    I still believe the real Roman sword was real. This cross will change history as well as all the other llocal trinkets they drop and find when they clear the cove and tear it up.

    Biggest reveal will be the box drains, totally in tact with 700+year old coconut fibers on top. Jack will climb in and crawl right into the MP and come back out with the chalice in hand! Can't wait... epi29!!!
    Not going to happen for more reasons than there is space to list them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan m View Post
    Not going to happen for more reasons than there is space to list them.
    I'm not so sure... I say 50 - 50 shot of it happening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch Da Truth View Post
    I'm not so sure... I say 50 - 50 shot of it happening!
    I do not want to beat a dead horse here, but.......for starters, the coconut fibers cannot be accurately dated by C14.
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  11. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan m View Post
    I do not want to beat a dead horse here, but.......for starters, the coconut fibers cannot be accurately dated by C14.
    I would bet that they are that old. Just my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan m View Post
    I do not want to beat a dead horse here, but.......for starters, the coconut fibers cannot be accurately dated by C14.
    Accurately enough!

    Cheers, Loki
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