The NEW XP is here

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Interesting comcept. Wonder if all the extra radio waves and electrical interference will affect the signal response in the headphones. We have enough trouble with cell phones bothering some detectors now.........
 

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No, the signal response is ULTRA sharp, and you have 36 frequencies now instead of the old 2 to choose from, so no problems at rallies.
Oh, and recovery has been made fully adjustable, from slow right upto 3 to 5 times FASTER than a GoldMaxx Power, which was the fastest recovering detector anyway.
 

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I think this is the one that will give the E Traq a run for it's money :dontknow: looks very good, will have to have a look at one of these :)

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It´s the mutts nuts
 

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Man I have never heard of this name brand machine...looks kind of like a minelab somewhat..How much does one cost? Is it available here in the US? When it is collapsed it reminds me of Star Trek Enterprise....................Hope that does not offend anyone, Tim
 

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It´s a French built machine,about the top selling brand in Europe. But they haven´t been sold commercially in the USA as the machines are fitted with wireless transmitters (Even the old ones ) for the headphones, which weren´t FCC certified, so only a few were privately imported. I don´t know yet if this one will eventually be FCC certified, but they´ll certainly have thier work cut out getting the units out just to fill the orders for the European market in the forseable future.
Everything on it is wireless, including the coil, and it only weighs 875 gramms complete, 975 gramms if you fit the large remote control to the main stem (You can leave it at home and just use the small one on the ear phones if you wish)
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bigtim1973 said:
About how much does this cost?
£ 1395.00 Stirling
or about € 1500.00 Euro
Including wireless Headphones and all remotes, all chargers etc.
 

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Well because of our falling economy and the dollar being laid to waste because our government sold us out to every other country outside the USA........that means that this machine will be somewhere between 2200 to 2500 US dollars!!!!! Yikes!!!! That one will have to be put on hold for me but, I read somewhere that these are not allowed here in the US because of the frequency it runs on. I do not know why that is but I am sure this company could comprimise a new frequency to operate for US costomers, Tim
 

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Look at the bright side bigtim. In a few years foreign companies will be sending jobs here. Can't wait for Indians to complain about getting people with American accents for tech support and customer service.
 

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The original XP's did not have the transmitter built onto the circuit board and so you can import them if you want. Most will not want to because the ground conditions tend to be hotter in the States and the machines just don't work that well on bad ground.

I've both low and high frequency XP's for sale on UK forums at the moment as I've moved on. There's nothing the XP's will do in the U.S. that the T2/F75 will not do better with a better warranty and you will gain a meter for those who like them.

If anyone is thinking of a private import of the new machine then consider what happens when the coil transmitter battery needs replacing.
 

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U.K. Brian said:
If anyone is thinking of a private import of the new machine then consider what happens when the coil transmitter battery needs replacing.
They need replacing after about 1000 recharges, and have a run time of 10 hours per run time (Lithium batteries, so practically no self discharge), which means probably about 5 or 6 years between battery changes, which a dealer could do for you. In Europe this costs about 60.00 Euro´s.
 

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GibH said:
Look at the bright side bigtim. In a few years foreign companies will be sending jobs here. Can't wait for Indians to complain about getting people with American accents for tech support and customer service.

You got that right!!! We Americans will be working in slave labor camps ran by the new world order group speaking to our bosses in a poor form of their native language!!
 

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I was quoted £50 for a battery replacement and coil reseal and though the figures you quote sound good they have not been born out in real life yet and the frequent recalls on this type of cells have cost companies like Sony a small fortune.

The unique drawback of these cells is that their lifespan is dependant on date of manufacture not date of first charge and the number of charge cycles.
Heat has a very bad effect on battery life. There was a report on battery life dropping 20% per year in hot regions and we don't know the specific type of battery used but many have a safety mechanism built in and if its of this type this provides a further constant drain and if the internal charge drops below a certain level it prevents recharge.

My normal searching period is 6 to 8 hours so a recharge would be needed after every hunt to guarantee the next days detecting. While there's some justification for wireless headphones for those who like to put a detector down when digging how much trouble does a wire from coil to control box really cause ?
 

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Batteries will be from the same family series as those in the WS1/2/3 headphones I should think, and those have proved themselves to be very reliable.
The reason for getting rid of the coil cable were many fold, not least in that the cable and it´s joint as the cause of 99.9% of problems on machines (Cable gets snagged, or people step on the point where the cable enters the coil), also the weight of the lithium battery and transmitter is less than that of the heavy duty cable. The whole detector weighs just 875 gramms, 975 gramms if you have the large remote fitted.
But no one is forcing you to buy one Brian, or anyone else for that matter.if you don´t want one, don´t buy it, simple.
 

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rayredditch said:
Batteries will be from the same family series as those in the WS1/2/3 headphones I should think, and those have proved themselves to be very reliable.
The reason for getting rid of the coil cable were many fold, not least in that the cable and it´s joint as the cause of 99.9% of problems on machines (Cable gets snagged, or people step on the point where the cable enters the coil), also the weight pf the lithium batteryy and transmitter is less than that of the heavy duty cable. The whole detector weighs just 875 gramms, 75 gramms if you have the large remote fitted.
But no one is forcing you to buy one Brian, or anyone else for that matter.if you don´t want one, don´t buy it, simple.
I agree Ray..... Wireless headphones are way better, I have lost count the ammount of money I have spent on the wired type, they all break down eventually. All future new machines will incorperate wireless technology eventually, it's just the way to go.

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Don't worry I'm not going to buy one as within a few months there will be the standard re chipping required as with the Goldmaxx and Goldmaxx Power.

In forty years I've had to cut coil cables back twice and refit the connector and each time it was on a chest mount machine. You bent over to dig and it would put pressure at the point where the coil connected to the control box.

Why not push the machine when its proved itself? Gimmicks will not make up for performance when it comes down to it.
 

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I think you just put forward another good reason for not having a cable LOL
By the way, Regtons got one in yesterday.
 

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