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    Quote Originally Posted by secretcanyon View Post
    why am I always the one to pee in the fire?

    the salton sea was formed when irrigation canals overflowed in the early 1900's...
    there was never a passage to the ocean, never a natural flow to the Colorado river....

    big mistake...pearl ship tale, is formed out of a long season with mescal.
    The "Salton Sea" as we know it today has no outlet. But google "Lake Cahuilla" and "Lake Drake" and you'll see. It was never really a lake though. It was an inlet extension of the gulf of Baja.

    The area wasn't COMPLETELY submerged at all times. A giant tidal bore would send water a hundred miles up from the current coast now. Then the tide would pull it back.

    It's been documented and confirmed not just by armchair treasure seeker but is widely accepted in academia.

    Keep pissing on the fire....

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    Hi Motell6, I found the article about SFW, if you would like me to fax it to you just give me a holler! Unfortunatly my scanner doesn't work anymore, otherwise I could scan and email it to you. Fuzz

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    Hi I say, I found the article, I can fax it to you, just give me a holler, unfortunatly my scanner no longer works, so I can't scan and email it to you. Thought you might be interested. Fuzz

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    thanks for the offer - i do not do faxes but if you have the source info (author, mag name year month) I may have read it already or not..
    the reason for the brass bar question. was someone found one recently in the colorado desert - i jut happened to be there when a third party showed some of the images of it to an archeologist i know
    from the photos it did seem like something that was not of recent age.

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    Hola ISAY2U: Many of the early gold bars were far from .999 fine and did indeed look like simple brass bars. I lost a load of them because in my earlier t Hunting days I didn't know this.However they are still there. Interested Oro ?
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    I'm interested

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    Pinacates zone in ole Mexico. Why it hasn't been found in Calif/

    Don Jose de la Mancha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp View Post
    Pinacates zone in ole Mexico. Why it hasn't been found in Calif/

    Don Jose de la Mancha
    Too few looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    Too few looking.
    Its a Shame. Because truth can some times stranger than fiction. And the world can be a very amazing place..... And ships in the desert are not as strange as it seems...

    Here is some pictures of the lost ships of the Aral Sea.



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    Crow

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    Hi My Buddy Crow,, An Indian, a Pima I believe, tol me that it is in the Pinacates in Mexico. That once when it was exposed to an extent, thy found Blue design, porcelin dishes, -- Manilla Trade? -- but it was too much work to excavate down into the hull. When they went back later, it was gone.
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    Hello Don Jose. Possible however there could a number of scenarios of how the porcelain got there?

    Crow
    Last edited by Crow; Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 AM.
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    hi Crow, true but that simple statement -----? Ceramic dishes were relatively rare in that period, in fact dishes were, you simply ate out of the common cooking vessel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp View Post
    hi Crow, true but that simple statement -----? Ceramic dishes were relatively rare in that period, in fact dishes were, you simply ate out of the common cooking vessel.
    Not to be a wet blanket to this particular theory, but the pearl ship was a built-in-Mexico ship, made for the specific task of pearl fishing, unlikely to have any kind of fancy dishes for captain de Iturbe and his crew; more likely it will turn out to be very plain, iron or pewter or clay pots. Remember this was a caravelle, not a Spanish Manila Galleon, much smaller and correct for the task of pearl fishing. I would have to doubt that find of china would be related to Juan de Iturbe and his cargo of rare pearls.

    Please do continue, don't let a skeptic stall you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    Not to be a wet blanket to this particular theory, but the pearl ship was a built-in-Mexico ship, made for the specific task of pearl fishing, unlikely to have any kind of fancy dishes for captain de Iturbe and his crew; more likely it will turn out to be very plain, iron or pewter or clay pots. Remember this was a caravelle, not a Spanish Manila Galleon, much smaller and correct for the task of pearl fishing. I would have to doubt that find of china would be related to Juan de Iturbe and his cargo of rare pearls.

    Please do continue, don't let a skeptic stall you!
    Oroblanco

    Hello Oro no you are correct it is a highly probable comment.

    I suspect that what ever the shipwreck it was not a Manilla Galleon. In fact very few disappeared over the centuries of the trade. However other small trade vessels involved in coastal trade and smuggling such as small caravel could have brought some trade goods traded from Acapulco up the coast and perhaps wanting to trade with the mission settlements of Baja by was driven North by a hurricane wrecking on the then beach line. Another thought is the ship of Don Jose story could be an entirely different shipwreck than the Pearl ship?

    Crow

 

 
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