Lost galleon of the desert and San felepe wash finds

[motell6]

Ok this is new imformation for me, but it is old imformation that I stumbled across by accident at a Treasure show at the Southpoint hotel and casino,La Vegas. As I was squeezeing through the isles,and it was jammed packed, I was offered a free gold prospectors magazine and I thought it was a recent issue like 2011. However it was not as I found out when I started to thrumb through it a week latter due to foregetful misplacement. Magazine date Nov./Dec. 2008,pages 20 to 25. A person named Gill Riggs was metal detecting in the San felipe wash and located a very ornate 15th century Spanish sword hilt,minus the blade. Another person found some oyster shells. Photos are shown.
Makes me wanna go and dectect that area , I do agree items may not be related to any lost desert ships.

 

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[Oroblanco]

Oldergoate - just keep telling everyone "there is no such thing as a lost ship in a desert!"

Oroblanco

 

[motell6]

Would you care to xpound on your posted photo. Looks like tire tracks in front and the ocean in the back.Seems to be a lot of rusted pipe interangled across and behind the bow.Thanks in advance.

 

[Oroblanco]

It is just a photo of a wrecked ship in a desert amigo, not the Pearl ship, sorry. There are several shipwrecks in the Namibian desert, which is where that particular photo was shot. You want something a bit older and smaller, like this.

Oroblanco

 

[Springfield]

Nice photos, Oro ... thanks.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HOLA older goate: The ship itself, lies in Mexico, near the Pinacates SE of Mexicali.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[surrealpillow]

HOLA older goate: The ship itself, lies in Mexico, near the Pinacates SE of Mexicali.

Don Jose de La Mancha

& just how do we know this^^ ?

 

[gollum]

Oldergoate,

The "Lost Ship of the Desert" referred to in all the magazine articles and stories was found many years ago. It is no secret locally to many people in the Brawley/El Centro Area.

One man used most of the aft section of the Caravelle to build an addition onto his house in the 1950s. It is my understanding that a small portion of the front section is still there, but usually lies under 20-30 feet of blow sand. I was told the whole story by more than a couple of people. I haven't had the chance to go to the spot where the ship sits (no treasure so not that important in the grand scheme).

Look in other thread on this subject to see a satellite pic of the site.

Mike

 

[Al D]

Too Bad
I was hoping that the desert ship was from the lost Templar fleet, and since I know what those ships looked like, I was going to go right out and find it
Well I will just have to stay home and have a cup of coffee.
Alan

 

[Oroblanco]

Gollum wrote

One man used most of the aft section of the Caravelle to build an addition onto his house in the 1950s.

That is a bit hard to believe, that the wood from the Caravelle would be in any kind of condition to salvage for any use. Now were we talking about the sail boat that was hauled out onto the Salton Sink and abandoned, it would not be quite so old and might be usable, but remember the time period for de Iturbe, 1615. The wood itself would have likely become pretty punky over the centuries, as far as I know it was not built of cedar. Sorry if this seems overly skeptical, but you know how many people make all kinds of claims these days, seems like this story would have gotten some attention from the news media.
Oroblanco

 

[motell6]

Guys I read a similiar story about the ship in the backyard, however the story I read said the owner was digging in the backyard and started finding a lot of Spanish coins, as he dug further he ended up in the forecastle and also found some other artifacts. This was sometime in the 1960"s. No name was given on this lost ship.

 

[gollum]

Gollum wrote

One man used most of the aft section of the Caravelle to build an addition onto his house in the 1950s.

That is a bit hard to believe, that the wood from the Caravelle would be in any kind of condition to salvage for any use. Now were we talking about the sail boat that was hauled out onto the Salton Sink and abandoned, it would not be quite so old and might be usable, but remember the time period for de Iturbe, 1615. The wood itself would have likely become pretty punky over the centuries, as far as I know it was not built of cedar. Sorry if this seems overly skeptical, but you know how many people make all kinds of claims these days, seems like this story would have gotten some attention from the news media.
Oroblanco

Roy,

Be as skeptical as you like. I was given a name and a location. Not like anyone was trying to be sneaky about anything.

The person that added the wood from the ship id'ed the shape of the ship as that of a Caravelle. The ship usually lies under 20-40 feet of blow sand. Every once in a while sandstorms or strong winds uncover what's left.

Like I said; there's no treasure (other than historical), so it is on my back burner of things to research. I do have other interests in the area, and when I get out that way, I'll look into it deeper.

Mike

 

[allenroyboy]

@Gollum
Was the find of the ship out in the San felipe wash area?

 

[pegleglooker]

bump

 

[gollum]

Hey ARB,

Sorry so long, but haven't been by here for a while.

Nowhere near SFW. SouthEast of Salton Sea not too far from El Centro/Brawley.

Mike

 

[Treasure finder]

re: Gil Riggs,
I had been to that area with Gil Riggs a few times and knew him well.
Unfortunately Gil passed away a couple of years ago in a car accident when
someone ran a red light. He was quite a treasure hunter and had done
extensive research and was quite a dowser. Also he was a Coast Guard
retiree, quite an interesting guy.
Rich

 

[tjscotty]

Here is a satellite photo of the ship in question.
http://maps.yahoo.com/#lat=32.983987814219745&lon=-115.11647343635559&zoom=19&mvt=h&trf=0

I have been to the location and it is currently under about 45 feet of sand.

 

[Oroblanco]

WELCOME TO TREASURENET Tjscotty! Thank you for sharing!

 

[jackrook]

tjscotty, what makes you think it is there? i was out dirt bike riding this weekend in Ocotillo Wells and all i kept fantasizing about was climbing a random hill and finding reminants of this ship. ahhhhhhh to be young and dream......

 

[hamiddetecting]

Wow its oldest ships. do you not find anything. i think it was lot of gold coin. I wish you luck . Hamid

It is just a photo of a wrecked ship in a desert amigo, not the Pearl ship, sorry. There are several shipwrecks in the Namibian desert, which is where that particular photo was shot. You want something a bit older and smaller, like this.

Oroblanco