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Taking on the State Bureaucracy "A personal victory" and for all detectorists
Lesson to be learned here, be persistant, and NEVER EVER GIVE IN! especially if you are absolutely correct, and I knew I was.
After Jeff's in Pa post below on his refusal to gain permission, I decided to pursue this furthur. You might want to read Jeff's post first to get the gist of things.
First, a little background information, then please read the regulations pertaining to metal detecting in Pennsylvania State Parks, then read all the correspondence "from my email box" starting from the bottom to get things in perspective...............Rich
Mr. Yanishak,
Ok, I have checke with the managers at the parks you mentioned and it appears that I have been overly cautious. Both managers suggested that it would do no harm, and I will go along with their opinions. They also told me to remind you that anything that you find, including money, must be turned in to the office to be put into the lost and found. I'm sure you already know this. If it is not claimed in 30 days, you may claim it.
You may print this e-mail and carry it with your for proof of
permission.
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:33 PM
To: Williams, Lew
Subject: Re: Locust Lake
Mr. Williams, thank you for your response, and I would appreciate a
difinitive answer or response. When "will be crew in with heavy
machinery to work on the beach" ? I see no reason why anyone can't metal detect on
the beach before and after the "crew" arrives.
Years ago, Hickory Run, Ricketts Glen had lake draw downs and were
exactly the same circumstances. I called the appropriate regional office and was given the go-ahead to detect the beaches, without any problems.
PS: This is my last email to you, and I assure you I'm going to get to
the bottom of this. My next step is to visit my local congressmen and/or state senator, and forward this email to DCNR in
Harrisburg.................Thank you for your time..........Richard Yanishak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Lew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Woleslagle, Jeffrey" <[email protected]>; "Lewis, Kenneth
(DCNR)"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: FW: Locust Lake
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
Mr Yanishak,
You DO NOT have permission to metal detect on the beach at Locust Lake. There will be crew in with heavy machinery to work on the beach. That is a valid reason.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Williams, Lew
Subject: Re: Locust Lake
Mr. Williams, I'm sorry, you still haven't answered my question. The
beach is NOT being renovated at the present time, it is in the same state as it was before Labor Day when swimming was allowed, the lake draw down has NO effect on metal detecting the beach sand area, so WHY are we not allowed to metal detect on the beach? Other than the fact that you say so. Do you really have a valid reason? ...............Richard Yanishak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Lew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Woleslagle, Jeffrey" <[email protected]>; "Lewis, Kenneth
(DCNR)"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Locust Lake
Mr Yanishak,
During the lake draw-down all activities on or within the boundaries of
Locust Lake are suspended. No one is allowed to metal detect there
regardless of his stated intention to remain within the beach area. The beach will be the subject of a renovation during the drawn down and we especially are not allowing any activities on the beach area.
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Locust Lake
Dear DCNR representative, I recently inquired about metal detecting in PA State Parks, and know that metal detecting is permitted by regulations, and I personally have metal detected in many PA state parks in the past with never any problems.
Last week, after Labor day, I drove up to Locust Lake State Park and
spoke to a DCNR officer named Bill when I asked him for his name. I requested permission to metal detect on the beach at Locust Lake State Park and was denied. ( I was given no reason, and the office said this is not a good time) The beach is just as safe as it was when it was open for swimming the week before Labor Day. Nobody is on the beach. I will not go in the water, just the sand so...............
I want a valid reason WHY I cannot detect the beach at Locust Lake State Park.
Thanks................Richard Yanishak
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5:43 PM
Lesson to be learned here, be persistant, and NEVER EVER GIVE IN! especially if you are absolutely correct, and I knew I was.
After Jeff's in Pa post below on his refusal to gain permission, I decided to pursue this furthur. You might want to read Jeff's post first to get the gist of things.
First, a little background information, then please read the regulations pertaining to metal detecting in Pennsylvania State Parks, then read all the correspondence "from my email box" starting from the bottom to get things in perspective...............Rich
Mr. Yanishak,
Ok, I have checke with the managers at the parks you mentioned and it appears that I have been overly cautious. Both managers suggested that it would do no harm, and I will go along with their opinions. They also told me to remind you that anything that you find, including money, must be turned in to the office to be put into the lost and found. I'm sure you already know this. If it is not claimed in 30 days, you may claim it.
You may print this e-mail and carry it with your for proof of
permission.
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:33 PM
To: Williams, Lew
Subject: Re: Locust Lake
Mr. Williams, thank you for your response, and I would appreciate a
difinitive answer or response. When "will be crew in with heavy
machinery to work on the beach" ? I see no reason why anyone can't metal detect on
the beach before and after the "crew" arrives.
Years ago, Hickory Run, Ricketts Glen had lake draw downs and were
exactly the same circumstances. I called the appropriate regional office and was given the go-ahead to detect the beaches, without any problems.
PS: This is my last email to you, and I assure you I'm going to get to
the bottom of this. My next step is to visit my local congressmen and/or state senator, and forward this email to DCNR in
Harrisburg.................Thank you for your time..........Richard Yanishak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Lew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Woleslagle, Jeffrey" <[email protected]>; "Lewis, Kenneth
(DCNR)"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: FW: Locust Lake
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
Mr Yanishak,
You DO NOT have permission to metal detect on the beach at Locust Lake. There will be crew in with heavy machinery to work on the beach. That is a valid reason.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Williams, Lew
Subject: Re: Locust Lake
Mr. Williams, I'm sorry, you still haven't answered my question. The
beach is NOT being renovated at the present time, it is in the same state as it was before Labor Day when swimming was allowed, the lake draw down has NO effect on metal detecting the beach sand area, so WHY are we not allowed to metal detect on the beach? Other than the fact that you say so. Do you really have a valid reason? ...............Richard Yanishak
----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Lew" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Woleslagle, Jeffrey" <[email protected]>; "Lewis, Kenneth
(DCNR)"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Locust Lake
Mr Yanishak,
During the lake draw-down all activities on or within the boundaries of
Locust Lake are suspended. No one is allowed to metal detect there
regardless of his stated intention to remain within the beach area. The beach will be the subject of a renovation during the drawn down and we especially are not allowing any activities on the beach area.
Lew Williams
Park Manager
Tuscarora/Locust Lake State Parks
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Yanishak [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Locust Lake
Dear DCNR representative, I recently inquired about metal detecting in PA State Parks, and know that metal detecting is permitted by regulations, and I personally have metal detected in many PA state parks in the past with never any problems.
Last week, after Labor day, I drove up to Locust Lake State Park and
spoke to a DCNR officer named Bill when I asked him for his name. I requested permission to metal detect on the beach at Locust Lake State Park and was denied. ( I was given no reason, and the office said this is not a good time) The beach is just as safe as it was when it was open for swimming the week before Labor Day. Nobody is on the beach. I will not go in the water, just the sand so...............
I want a valid reason WHY I cannot detect the beach at Locust Lake State Park.
Thanks................Richard Yanishak
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date:
9/10/2007
5:43 PM
Perhaps I should enlighten him, but that would really piss him off, but that wasn't the original idea behind this, so I will keep my mouth shut until confronted. 
..........Rich
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