Digital cameras CAN see buried gold

Evening my friend AA ----\_ :coffee2: :coffee2:_ / I think that we would have a ball with an informal get together at the local coffee shop or in my patio..

You brought up the interesting point of a common language, you are completely correct. this is one reason that I suggested to Carl to forget radio theory, while it is similar, it doesn't actually apply100 %.

You posted -->If you strike a tuning fork, and place one of a harmonic near it, the second will vibrate at it's own resonant frequency. They will mix, and give you four frequencies until they die out. But if you use a frequency analyser, you will only see the four frequencies. There would be no further harmonics generated, because there is nothing further to resonate, in that frequency range. (I've never heard anything about air, itself, resonating; but it might, at a molecular level or something. )
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Hmm here we tend to separate. Because air 'is' the medium of transmission, we will have many, many frequencies. The effect would be similar to throwing two stones simultaneously, but separated, into a calm pond and watching the intermixing / interference of the ripples.

Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

With the two rocks in the water, it would be a mix, because you have two primary sources. This is different than the tuning fork inducing vibration in a second tuning fork.

With the water, you will get some interesting patterns, where the waves cross each other, but still just the four wave frequencies. See Moire pattern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moiré_pattern.

These patterns are similar to the standing wave phenomenon, and can produce standing waves. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave.

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However I question this--> "(Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)" Shall we say in themselves and in a singular state. But, under the right conditions yes, they most certainly do.

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Sounds like you're re-defining math & physics to fit a made-up alternate reality. It's a Big Pile, and folks should be careful not to step in it.

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Jesus, can one of you guys just build the gizmo and report the results? :)

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Ben Thayer and Don Thatt. Both Polaroid and digital. Don't work, at all. Folks who continue to insist it does work are propping up delusions with heaping gobs of made-up non-science.

EE an interesting point, however I am well acquainted with Moire wave patterns. My two rocks intersecting waves suggestion has nothing to do with them, but does on physical wave propagation and interference..


Don Jose de La Mancha

Evening Carl, You copied & posted -->However I question this--> "(Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)" Shall we say in themselves and in a singular state. But, under the right conditions yes, they most certainly do.

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It is quite clear what I posted, it was stated "(Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)", I stated - "in themselves and in a 'singular' state" --- you do understand what a singular state is no, or do you ?

Sigh

Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

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My two rocks intersecting waves suggestion has nothing to do with them, but does on physical wave propagation and interference..

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On the Widipedia link I provided, if you scroll down, there is an audio representation of a soundwave Moire pattern. That is a physical wave propagation. Can you count the resulting frequencies? Warning: Listening to it can drive you nuts!

Further down, there is an example of the pattern made by your two rocks (two circular wave patterns intersecting).

You have to click to enlarge, and that one actually moves to show the interaction, here---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moir%C3%A9.gif

You would get some standing waves, because they are going in opposing directions. But the amplitude of the standing waves would vary along the contact arcs of the wave fronts, because the angle of contact varies. But I don't see any multitude of new frequencies, do you?

If there were new frequencies, then where are they after the two center points meet, and all the waves align? There are none there.

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Oh yeah, here's another frequency mixing example I thought of. You're flying a twin engine, the engines are a little out of sync. What do you hear? The (number of cylinders firing multiplied by the) RPM of each engine, plus that irritating WOoooooOW-WOoooooOW sound of the difference frequency. The sum frequency would be too high to hear, though; unless you had two-bangers and pretty good ears, I think.


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It is quite clear what I posted, it was stated "(Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)", I stated - "in themselves and in a 'singular' state" --- you do understand what a singular state is no, or do you ?

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A "pure sine wave" does not contain harmonics, period. There is nothing to debate, because it is a physical and mathematical definition. A waveform that has harmonics is NOT a pure sine wave.

Do you understand this?

I cheated, and added to my previous post. The refresh button might need to be clicked to see it.

( I thought I could do it really fast, but that didn't work very well.)

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...RPM of each engine, plus that irritating WOoooooOW-WOoooooOW sound of the difference frequency.

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(The point being that there are no harmonics.)

I get it Carl. What you see here is QRM.

When you search for the tropical tramp he is all over the map. I am sure you have met people before who will say things that are just not realistic. Don said he flew the P51. Why would someone who is a pilot take a donkey on a field trip in Mesico and not have the aerial pictures to document it like he claims to have done before? He says he is a honorary or voted lifetime member of the Explorers club in NY. No listing for Joseph Curry. The one and the same that was looking for suckers to go to Atlantis that he claims he found. Arthur Joseph Curry is a comic book hero, he found Atlantis.

The poor man wants recognition and it is high time he got it. You Carl, on the other hand are a disciplined man and are deserving of more respect. If the Lord tarries and the river don’t rise you will be remembered for your contributions and achievements that are measurable and documentable.

The other guys,.. sigh. Makes me think of stolen valor.

Hi all I just read the first few pages of this thread, I am really ashamed of the OP for being so gullible to believe David Villanueva an idiot/snake oil salesman and flat out liar. Bottom line this will NOT work. PERIOD... It is BUNK Ghost Hunter BS... I have taught photography at the University level (thus my user name) If need be I will prove to anyone with big words just how it is IMPOSSIBLE, but I rather not waste my time talking about Superman and Kryptonite.

Anybody who thinks that digital cameras can see buried gold should send a $1 for a pair of these...

http://www.tomheroes.com/images/COMI...%20glasses.JPG

P.S. If anybody wants to buy Polariod film you can still get it here: http://www.the-impossible-project.com/

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Since you teach at the university level, you should probably learn to read at that same level.

I'm only an observer in relation to all this about the cameras, and have been considering the possibilities, but I'm not convinced either way.

But one thing I can say is that the statement you made, above, has not been stated in this thread, except by you. It's in the topic title, but stated that way for brevity only. You should read more than just the title before making such a negative comment.

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Carl I am not sure whether it is that you can't understand what you are reading, or just being ornery.

You posted -->Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)",

I posted --> "in themselves and in a 'singular' state" In plain words I 'agreed' with you ?????

What's up?

Don Jose de La Mancha

JG: I will go over this just once more, not for your benefit, but for those that are reading and looking for information on the subject.

You posted -->.Why would someone who is a pilot take a donkey on a field trip in Mesico and not have the aerial pictures to document it like he claims to have done before?
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That is as silly a question / statement as I have seen posted in TN. Do your research on the country. Do you believe that you are the first to come up with that brilliant idea? Sheesh, it really doesn't warrant a response. Incidentally those - missing ? - pictures have been posted in TN, along with many others of Tayopa..
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You posted --> He says he is a honorary or voted lifetime member of the Explorers club in NY. No listing for Joseph Curry.
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Don Jose de La Mancha

JG: You posted -->The one and the same that was looking for suckers to go to Atlantis that he claims he found. Arthur Joseph Curry is a comic book hero, he found Atlantis.
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Ok genius, where is it. It has been posted to the Explorers club for discussion. So far no radical disagreement.

Now I will go swr, 'show me the proof' that I am looking for suckers to go to Atlantis, and why.
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you posted -->The poor man wants recognition and it is high time he got it.
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Yeah, especially from my wife. hehehheheehh

So, are you deliberately being obtuse to attempt to put me on the defensive for some reason, or just incapable of understanding?

So far you have struck out on every try, but I do have to give you credit, you keep trying like the "Energizer bunny".. maybe, just maybe, you might find something, but I won't help you along with hints. snicker.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Good afternoon Photo-master ? you posted --> If need be I will prove to anyone with big words just how it is IMPOSSIBLE
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Listening, and big words do not bother us, so get to cracking on your proof my friend.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. you are behind date with your X-ray vison, the newest announcement down here is an attachment for your cell phone.

HIO EE, you posted to photo-mistro --> You should read more than just the title before making such a negative comment
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That rates you :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:& :coffee2: :coffee2:

Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

Thank you. I haven't been rated in a while. :coffee2:


I actually sent for a pair of X-Ray Specs, when I was a teenager. Not because I thought they could actually see through things, but because I wanted to find out how they created the illusion.

People laughed because they thought I wanted to see through girls' clothes. But then they all wanted to try them on! That was the funniest part! :laughing7:

So sorry Joe, I had you mistaken for the king of Atlantis. Nice card, I bet that opens a lot of doors down mesico way.
I found you fishing for a sucker and have a link. I did not know the Explorers Club did that.

http://www.staugustinelighthouse.com...asure_hunt.php
You should give me some links for your pictures. I would like to see them and not just hear about them.

Good evening JG: I went to the site you posted, The lighthouse. If you read my posts -->We also have identified the location of ATLANTIS, as also posted in both sites. I am sure that regardless of your particular views on the subject, you might find the story and search for Tayopa fascinating. As for Atlantis, get to cracking my friend, it is being handed to you on a figurative silver platter heheh.
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Where do you see trolling for suckers? I gave the entire information to an Archaeologist / Archaeologist site for free etc.?? Didn't even ask for any credit if you noticed.

You also posted -->You should give me some links for your pictures. I would like to see them and not just hear about them.
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I wlll do this much, Tayopa has roughly 44,512 viewers, and it is just a click away.-->http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/board,75.0.html

Anything else??



Don Jose de La Mancha

Yea. How much does it cost to get one of those cards and do they take Bazooka Joe wrappers?

Also, where did you fly the P 51 for the Navy and what years?

I keep searching for the things you are talking about but cannot find them here, all I find is the other junk.
If you make me wade through the internet, who knows what else I might find.

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Carl I am not sure whether it is that you can't understand what you are reading, or just being ornery.

You posted -->Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)",

I posted --> "in themselves and in a 'singular' state" In plain words I 'agreed' with you ?????

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No, you didn't. You added that, under some mysterious other "state," pure sine waves "certainly do" contain harmonics:

However I question this--> "(Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)" Shall we say in themselves and in a singular state. But, under the right conditions yes, they most certainly do.

This is utter nonsense. Pure sine waves NEVER contain harmonics. Do you agree? Adding two sine waves does NOT create harmonics. Do you agree? Multiplying two sine waves does NOT create harmonics. Do you agree? Intermodulation products are NOT harmonics. Do you agree? Or do you prefer to continue making up a bunch of non-science?

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Carl I am not sure whether it is that you can't understand what you are reading, or just being ornery.

You posted -->Pure sine waves do not contain harmonics.)",

I posted --> "in themselves and in a 'singular' state" In plain words I 'agreed' with you ?????

What's up?

Don Jose de La Mancha

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Agree.
In themselves and in a singular state.
Everything in the universe is a complex wave. This complex wave is made up of pure sine waves of different lengths. A wavelength as ratio for the next one. Oscilators introduce sine waves of different lengths. The same happens to living organisms. They are oscilators too.
When sine waves of different lengths add and multiply they form these complex waves with harmonics. Can be fractals.
Ask these guys what a harmonic is and they will promptly give you the wikipedia definition towards radio.
A bunch of pure sine waves comprise anything alive on earth.
They should know for instance that FFT is only a way of looking at pure tones 'branched' together to produce complex waves. These waves can also resemble lorenz attractors in chaos theory when and if organized in a particular fashion, spiral inward towards a central point.

Do you think they know about this? You tell me.

When you emit a 'thought form' vibration, is this a pure sine wave or not? He,he,he...
Amplify this and have a simple Cray One to covert the data and analyze it. You will know what I mean.

good morning JG: OK you have been asking absolutely silly questions of me that are not relevant to the subject in any way, so to continue the trend, how about posting 'your' life history, education credits, and scientific background, or any back ground that qualifies you to continually do nothing but disrupt, like a little 6 year old that keeps asking"why" without even listening to / for the answers.

Incidentally you probably already know, or should know, that the P-51 was never in regular Naval service except for experimental purposes, for one it is not designed for carrier service. The rear empennage is not that strong, under certain violent maneuvers it can fail.

The Explorers Club data is on the back of the card that you asked about, including their site address, go there and do your own research on what ever you wish to know about it, including what is required to be subject to a vote for membership.

If there is anything else that you wish to know, then just start wading, be my guest. If it is important enough for you to take issue, then it is important enough for you to put 'your' fingers to work.


Don Jose de La Mancha

Hung --> :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :coffee2: :coffee2: They can't seem to realize that radio theory and fundamental physics have a different starting period. Everything in the universe is interacting with everything else in different levels of energy, but never the less interacting.

Since radio is only interested in physically adaptable and predictable results they have developed a nice set of working theories / rules which tend to give predicted social results, but in the end may be completely incorrect as far as the Universe is concerned.

Look at how many theories there are on electricity alone.

Don Jose de La Mancha

good morning Carl: you posted -->This is utter nonsense. Pure sine waves NEVER contain harmonics. Do you agree? Adding two sine waves does NOT create harmonics. Do you agree? Multiplying two sine waves does NOT create harmonics. Do you agree? Intermodulation products are NOT harmonics. Do you agree? Or do you prefer to continue making up a bunch of non-science
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If we have some pure sine wave of frequency K it has harmonics with frequency nK, for example if K=100Hz its second harmonic is n=2 so 2K= 200Hz.. Here K is the FUNDAMENTAL each multiple is a harmonic of that wave.

It is interesting that ANY periodic waveform can be expressed as a sum of harmonic sine waves. This is called the Fourier Expansion. For example

f(x) = 4(Σ Sin(nπx/L)/n)/π
Where the sum is over all ODD integers.
~~The fundamental frequency, often referred to simply as the fundamental and abbreviated f0 or F0, is defined as the lowest frequency of a periodic waveform. In terms of a superposition of sinusoids (e.g. Fourier series), the fundamental frequency is the lowest frequency sinusoidal in the sum.
All sinusoidal and many non-sinusoidal waveforms are periodic, which is to say they repeat exactly over time. A single period is thus the smallest repeating unit of a signal, and one period describes the signal completely. We can show a waveform is periodic by finding some period T for which the following equation is true:


Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

There are two forms of harmonics.

First, there is the conceptual form. Like if you say, "The first harmonic of 100Hz is 200Hz." But that is just a thought or idea. The 200Hz is not an empirical thing. It's merely a math result. A hypothetical.

The second form is an actual wave. Like the vibration induced in a second tuning fork, which is tuned to the harmonic frequency of the emitting tuning fork. This is a real, physical thing. And you can say, "Look, the second fork is now vibrating at the first harmonic of the 100Hz fork.

The point being, that when it is said that 200Hz is the first harmonic of 100Hz, it doesn't mean that the 100Hz contained the 200Hz to begin with. The 200Hz from the second tuning fork is a newly created sound wave. Even though it uses energy from the 100Hz, it is an entirely new frequency, no matter where it got it's energy from.

Someone could theorize that it was somehow contained within the 100Hz, but that is beyond the definitions of current "science." It could be said that, since the energy put into the first tuning fork, when it was hit against the table, is the energy which is responsible for vibrating the air, and the energy in that air vibration is responsible for moving the second tuning fork, therefore the energy in the 200Hz vibration was contained in the 100Hz (or in the table!) But the characteristic of the energy in the wavelength of 200Hz was not contained in the 100Hz vibration. That characteristic was determined by the second tuning fork.

So it goes from energy (the hit against the table), to characteristic (100Hz), to energy (air waves against the second fork), to characteristic (the 200Hz). But the 200Hz characteristic is no more determined by the first fork, than it is by the table.

That the second fork is tuned to the first harmonic of the 100Hz fork causes a sustained vibration in it, because it reinforces it's resonant frequency on a continuous basis (every cycle of the 100Hz is exactly in phase with every other cycle of the 200Hz movement of the second tuning fork). But it would also vibrate at that frequency (for a while) if it was merely hit on the table!

If you put several items on a table, and blast an audio signal generator through an amplifier to a large speaker, then slew the frequency over the generator's band, at different frequencies different items will vibrate because they are resonating at those frequencies, or close harmonics to them. This effect is responsible for vibratory mechanical failures (cracks resulting in breakage) in certain machinery parts, including cars and airplanes, and can be due to resonance of the part at the same, or at a harmonic frequency.

Like I said before, essentially, interrelationships in the universe can be expressed in many ways, but if a person wants to communicate accurately, he must stick to an agreed upon language. If someone expresses a thought in other than the language he claims to be using, it ain't gonna work!

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hung-up---

You seem to have gotten your FFT snagged on your Omega, and it has crashed that imaginary Cray that you keep out in your shed.

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Since radio is only interested in physically adaptable and predictable results they have developed a nice set of working theories / rules which tend to give predicted social results, but in the end may be completely incorrect as far as the Universe is concerned.

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I agree.

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Everything in the universe is interacting with everything else in different levels of energy, but never the less interacting.

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Yes, but there is something missing from that formula, and that is what currently baffles "science," and results in so many ultra complex, yet dead-end, theories.









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The proof of the pudding is when you can swallow a gold ring and then put the digital camera where the sun don't shine and see if you can see the gold ::)

stefen---

Good idea, but you're a little late.

It's called colonoscopy.

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Try it---you'll probably like it. :laughing7:









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You are not to be taken seriously.
You are one more of the poor devil skeptics here. Dign of pity.
Not worth the time or effort.
Enjoy your rendevouz.

TN frowns on calling someone an idiot...however, a simple request to provide backup material fo a statement is acceptable...

So sticking a camera up...will work :laughing7:

I am not being disruptive Joe, I just am fascinated with your claims and background. Those are some sweet pictures you posted of aircraft and I have no doubt you are familiar with the p51 like how much left rudder you need to give it on takeoff. Are you trying to imply that you flew it for the Navy as a test pilot in some evaluation capacity for the Navy? I am confused. You say you were shanghaied into the service and then say you volunteered into the Navy where you have one full year of electronic training under your belt. Then you say you were a p51 pilot. It is all too much confusing and does not make sense. You tell me to dig, so I dig and ask because you are not consistent in what you say.

In this thread you cite your electronic training in the Navy as a credential for your electronic statements. That biplane and pilot suit does not date right for the Navy as a trainer. Please explain. I will gladly give you credit for what you say if your credentials are impeccable. What qualifications did you have to go from Navy electronics to p51 Navy pilot?

OK gentlemen last time. USN air , Premed, USAF flight training, Border Patrol, explorations, lost mines etc., til the present. Beyond this I will not waste the rooms time.

A) Boot camp San Diego 1941.

B) Official notification of selection of Pilot training in the new USAF.

C) Misc explorers club cards for swr. Notice the M1-03 is my identification, not the year. M!-03 is Member International - 03

D) My stearman, flying for Marsh Aviation in Canada

EE, noticed the Moire lines in the picture. he he .

hung-up---

You must have learned English the same place you learned physics.

I see you have no data to offer, only attempts at juvenile insults.

Now crawl back into your imaginary bat cave, and throw a tantrum.


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stefenetta---

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TN frowns on calling someone an idiot...however, a simple request to provide backup material fo a statement is acceptable...

So sticking a camera up...will work :laughing7:

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The proof of the pudding is when you can swallow a gold ring and then put the digital camera where the sun don't shine and see if you can see the gold ::)

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Thank you Joe. I see Perrin AFB, the 3555th has quite a history but the war was over in 1949.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perrin_Air_Force_Base

Note: No P-51’s. Note: Not the Navy. If you want people to think you went from the Navy recruit training directly to USAF CAP pilot training, they just need to ignore dates. You graduated in the 50-G. 1950! A post war CAP Stearman is not a P-51 : http://www.stearmanflights.com/history/ Where is the USAF insignia on the wing? You were ferrying Stearmans to Nova Scotia to be fitted for spraying for Budworms on a private job for a contractor. That was not a military mission you survived.

And Joe, sigh,… sigh,… the P-51 requires right rudder on take-off, any living or dead P-51 pilot knows that. You missed that too. It is a dishonor to real war veteran pilots and real heroes of war valor to claim for yourself stolen valor. You deserve no recognition as a war pilot, poser.

Explorer Club members do not solicit for exploration funding in a tease of information. The Explorer Club funds official club explorations, with the exclusion of outer space.

Joe, you used your name here and elsewhere with your online Identity. Sometimes both together. You suggested I look for your proofs online so I did.
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/na_texan.php?p=1 Proving cadet training.
“I,… only got to fly the P-51” oh really?http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=132916.0


Proving the pudding, one pudding head at a time. :thumbsup:

Sorry jg you have to take it from here, I refuse to be baited any further, if 'you' can't make any sense of the sequence of my posts by now, then perhaps your qualifications to judge the subject are in serious doubt.

This series of posts serves no purpose, except to stoke 'your ego', and definitely is not on the subject..

NOW ABOUT YOU? Your data ! NO data posted, coupled with the above remarks, makes your status and posts unreliable, particularly on logical thinking, or spatial visualization.

Incidentally, Since you posted the data on Sherman & other sites, why didn't you post my remarks in them ?
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A) Joseph Curry, Real_Tayopa=hotmail.com, 24.08.2010
finally found an old picture of our cadet class, 50 G, at Perrin. It is in front of the C-47. If anyone wishes a copy, em me.


B) Joseph Curry, Real_Tayopa=hotmail.com, 17.03.2010
Class 50 G Perrin. 3rd hr in one when I was told to make an instrument take off, sheesh. I still have no idea why I didn't take out several runway lights. I must have bounced just right between them My Instructor had both feet on the cross bar with a cigar and was laughing his cottin pickin butt off while I was still wondering what had happened. sigh.

Incidentally, is anyone left from 50 G Perrin? If so contact me.
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My class had only 25 cadets, this out of approx. 3200 applicants. So 'I' am not particularly ashamed of my past, YOU ??


Don Jose de La Mancha

I hesitate to say Gentlemen to some of you in this thread. I see absolutely no reason that Don Jose should even have to justify himself on his War Records to anyone. He has served his Country honourably, in two Wars, and for those who question his integrity should be ashamed of themselves.

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I hesitate to say Gentlemen to some of you in this thread. I see absolutely no reason that Don Jose should even have to justify himself on his War Records to anyone. He has served his Country honourably, in two Wars, and for those who question his integrity should be ashamed of themselves.

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Well said.
His integrity, education and matureness is one evidence of the few inteligent lives in this forum.

Geeze Hung blushing, but thank you.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Allo Unicorn luv: :hello: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :coffee2: :coffee2: a nice cup of Tea?

He is just playing the game as taught in grammar and high schools. Whenever you are stumped for an answer, or whatever, then attack your opponent with 'any thing' to put him on the defensive, or discredit him, even if it has no connection with the subject, just keep putting him on the defensive, as has been so nicely demonstrated in the latest series of posts.

However, I have grown bored with this immature tactic, and am through with this since it has no bearing on the subject in discusion.

Thanks for the nice post.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Playing a game? If stolen valor and falsifying a military service record is not some kind of game then it is a ticket for the VA behavior heath center in Phoenix. The guy tells me to look it up and I do and what I find is a man that is not what he says he is but leads people on like he is a war pilot. If that makes the man some kind of hero then it fits right in with the many blatant flagrant violations of reality in this thread and others he has posted. Better men did not die or return maimed and wounded for others to take liberties in claiming or implying military service other than what they have on record.

If you fellows like being suckered by a confidence man that has been caught red handed in a lie on many items then you fit right in with him on the sixth floor. Now someone says he was in two wars. Let me guess, he worked for the CIA in North Korea and flew the back-ups for Gary Powers. He does not know electronics either. He is many things but the real Joe is a far cry from what you think. All I can say is I am glad there is a law on the books for stolen valor and posers are getting more than a dressing down. Stay in Mesico Joe, you step on the soil of the USA and you are screwed, blued and tattooed. You got that Mr.? You are an outlaw.

http://www.stolenvalor.com/
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies.htm
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=7261240

Now about the possibility of developing a workable practical theory on using a digital camera. Is it possible to use an electrical field as a conversion filter, rather than conventional optical ones, since we are actually dealing with frequencies ??

Don Jose de La Mancha

HI swr, I am glad that we can finally correspond. That is certainly tangible, how do they focus electronic microscopes, and just what are they focusing?

-->http://www.unl.edu/CMRAcfem/em.htm

--> http://www.cheniere.org/books/excali...gnetic_wav.htm

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That reminds me. a no of years ago I was a student Of Dr T G Hieronymus He was an electrical engr. He had me duplicate an experiment with plants and transferring the sun's frequencies via a copper screen and wire to the plants in complete darkness . They all developed normally with full quantities of chlorophyll. Soo is the suns light transferable by electrical means or conversions? Harmonics?

For those that might wish to investigate this go to --> http://rexresearch.com/agro2/0agro1.htm#elxplntgrowth

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Don Jose de La Mancha

Ive forced to respond to This .......Yes this technique has been used for Eons ,Much longer than the Photo -Cell was invented . The Holy Ghost has an ORA . Do you believe that ?? One does not need a Camera to be influenced by forces that surround Us Every Day ..Kinna like Radiation ,You get enough of that And You will never Dought Again . But you cant see it .So Please be Careful as we treck the Hillsides and Gulches .There are forces there we yet dont understand .
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Originally Posted by Unicorn

I hesitate to say Gentlemen to some of you in this thread. I see absolutely no reason that Don Jose should even have to justify himself on his War Records to anyone. He has served his Country honourably, in two Wars, and for those who question his integrity should be ashamed of themselves.

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JG, I agree. Drop the Inquisition on DJ's unrelated accomplishments, and debate the topic at hand.

Thank you Carl.

Don Jose de La Mancha

OK, just to get things back on track, I'll state my position on it, and why.



There are a few seemingly strange things that I'm pretty sure actually occur. I can't rule out the possibility that these things may be somehow associated with the production of some kind of above ground indicators, which in turn might be seen by either the naked eye, or a camera, or both.

First, there is the Desert Trumpet Plant. This variety is reported to grow above or near gold deposits. It's not clear to me at this time whether it supposedly grows there more-so than other places, or grows only there. What I've read so far, doesn't indicate if the gold they are referring to is hardrock ore, or old placer deposits which are now dry. The difference being that the placer gold would be in metallic nugget form, while the ore type would more likely have many associated minerals with it, plus possibly strong acids and alkalies, which combinations might be more likely to bleed off something into the soil above (if there is any) that the plants thrive on. The thing is, all of the many pictures on the Web show these plants growing on flat land. Their first name is, after all, "desert." So, how would metallic gold bleed anything off which the plants could detect and use? Maybe this type of gold merely affects the soil in some way which is beneficial to these plants.

The second thing that seems fairly certainly to be happening, is the lightning strikes on metallic ore bodies. I've heard about it from several sources over the years, but about all I know about it, is that it is supposed to happen, and be an indicator of metallic ore to some degree of probability. My point with this is that, with all that electrical power striking an ore body, or maybe even buried metals too, who knows what kind of effect it might have on either the metals or the ground around it, or the combination of them?

Third are the reports of the actual glow or "fire" seen, which reportedly is said to always reveal some type of precious metal underground. I have heard reports of this, also, from several different sources.

Plus, from being a refining hobbyist, I know that there are several chemicals that will dissolve gold and silver, and several more, including some metallic minerals, that will precipitate them. Some of these, or their components, are found naturally in the ground; but as far as I know, mostly in or adjacent to, the gold or silver ore formations themselves. Although I haven't done any direct research concerning these chemicals being present in some soils.

So, with what little i do know, plus the many similar reports from various sources, and an actual eye witness here on this forum, I am hesitant to say that it's impossible for any camera, setup for any wave band, to record some kind of indication of underground gold, due to it's somehow affecting an above ground phenomenon.

....Just sayin'....


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