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    How do you know they are from another planet? For all you know they are terrestrial.

    "From another planet", cripes next you will be claiming they are ghosts or leprechauns.
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    U.F.O....Unidentified Flying Object.

    The key word there is: "Unidentified".

    From there, wishful thinking and our imaginations take over.

    We can't explain it, so it must be from outer space, right?

    For those unaware, our closest neighboring solar system would be
    Proxima Centauri (only visible in the Southern Hemisphere), and it is
    over 4 LIGHT YEARS away. That's 24 TRILLION miles!

    At 20,000 MPH, it would take us 137 THOUSAND YEARS to get there.

    And that's the closest place aliens could come from, so any aliens
    showing up around Earth either have very, very long lives, or
    they've conquered traveling at multiples of light speed.

    When it comes to our education for understanding the universe, I believe
    human kind is still in 1st grade.

    Could there be alien visitors? Absolutely, however aliens sending unmanned
    probes makes much more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    Heck I remember that Kecksburg incident and saw it myself. I was a kid, we were playing outside when the red fireball appeared out of the NW, moving S-L-O-W, seemed to be heading straight at MY house! Naturally all of us kids panicked and ran but the red fireball suddenly made a right angle turn, and drifted slowly across the sky disappearing in the SW. We assumed it must be a meteor, and jumped on our bicycles to go find it as it looked like it had come down just a few miles away, but my friend's parents called out to us that they heard it came down in the far SW part of the state at Kecksburg, so we gave up on it. For many years I believed that a meteor could fly across the sky slowly like that, only to learn that they never fly slow like that!

    I suspect it was a Soviet space probe that was reported "lost" that very day, and as we (USA) were treaty bound to return to the Soviets any spacecraft we might recover, the USAF simply lied about it and sneaked it away to examine it, pretending it was a meteorite.

    That said, something is definitely up with the recent government admission that UFOs are in fact real craft of unknown origins. The decades long standard method of ridiculing the topic however dies hard.

    Somewhere around the Same Time (Too far back to Know Dates) but just around Dusk,
    We were in the yard Playing.
    Was a Warm night in N.E. PA.
    it seemed back then the
    whole town may have been out enjoying the Weather.almost all the Kids in Town,
    In my Yard. Mom & Dad on the Swing,
    with a Few Neighbors Visiting. But a Fireball went over us.
    We could hear it coming, Come over the Trees in a N'E' Direction
    appeared to be just above the Trees & looked like a Comet Fire Ball & Tail.
    about the Size of a House.
    By no means was it Slow though. Set the Dogs off Barking , Everyone in Town Hollerin' to each other about it
    Speculating on if it landed nearby, Even at 10 years old I Figured the speed could have sent it out into the Ocean
    on the other side of N.Y.
    Makes me wonder though if it was traveling around Before going down Out in Western PA
    or if there were 2
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    I would like to believe in aliens - but seems to me because most descriptions are of humanoid beings with bodies similar to ours
    and most being able to breathe (survive in our atmosphere) that they would more likely be from the future
    unless like some UFO experts suggest that we were put here by them
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER-2 View Post
    I would like to believe in aliens - but seems to me because most descriptions are of humanoid beings with bodies similar to ours
    and most being able to breathe (survive in our atmosphere) that they would more likely be from the future
    unless like some UFO experts suggest that we were put here by them
    I Do believe some Could be from Space.
    I'm not That conceited, That I believe Earths humans are the Most Intelligent
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    Let alone in Infinity. Imagine how sad that would Be

    Look like us ? Everyone has a Near Twin.
    So within Infinity, So could the Earth.

    But I agree, Those Visiting us, Could look entirely Different
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    & Maybe far more Intelligent then we could ever even Comprehend.

    Maybe some sending Clones, After Abduction & Research,

    Or as Said, Some could just Be like Us, Sending Probes.

    But I Can't be Convinced We're the Be All End all to Space How Sad that would Be

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    Everybody places such a high value on intelligence. Who cares if they are intelligent or not? All i want to know is if they are going to try to eat me. It is like if a crook was trying to rip you off and you wished he was smarter? I don't think so.

    What are their values. That's the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CASPER-2 View Post
    I would like to believe in aliens - but seems to me because most descriptions are of humanoid beings with bodies similar to ours
    and most being able to breathe (survive in our atmosphere) that they would more likely be from the future
    unless like some UFO experts suggest that we were put here by them
    "They" ARE us, from different time/space (future); "they" can go way back to "our" past, too... as indicated from SOME ancient paintings, drawings, writings. Modern SCIENCE has postulated 10 dimensions for us... MAYBE 11. "They" come in different sizes & shapes. if each dimension has it OWN universe... MULTA-VERSE! MUST be a summer solstice "thing"; gotta cut down on regular coffee, & go "DE-CAF"! HEH... SUNNY OUT; wife & I are going to Smith Mountain Lake in Virginia...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckshot View Post
    How do you know they are from another planet? For all you know they are terrestrial.

    "From another planet", cripes next you will be claiming they are ghosts or leprechauns.
    We don't. If you know some place on Earth where these odd "beings" are native, please let us know.

    Due to time dilation at extreme speeds, a trip to a star system 500 light years away could pass as if it were ten years for humans aboard the vessel. The round trip might take 1000 years for the folks on Earth to see the ship return, but the original crew would have only seen 20 years go by. Einstein's theory of relativity is why.

    20,000 miles per hour is hardly the upper speed limit for humans today - the Parker Solar Probe surpassed 153,454 miles per hour, and with the theoretical solar sails and ion drive engines we might be able to reach more than 99% of the speed of light.

    There are literally hundreds of billions of galaxies, and billions of stars in each one. No matter how rare intelligent life might be, it is a certainty that other intelligent life does exist elsewhere in our galaxy and universe.

    Now consider that our planet is relatively 'young' by galactic standards, there are many others which are double and triple the age of our own. This makes it very likely that other intelligent life will be more advanced than we are technologically. They very well could have found ways to solve the problems of the vast distances involved with interstellar travel.

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    I'm no Trekie by any Sense of the Word.
    Never saw more then Clips of it.


    But Suppose a Planet Was so Advanced they Sent out a Ship to Travel the Stars
    Include Craft Like Life boats that Could be Sent out for Planetary Exploration.

    Just like the Discussion of a One way trip to Mars.

    They could Send Male & Female Explorers Who could forward the species
    For Centuries Or even make Test tube Babies. all they would need is
    the Ability to Create all they need for repairs, Fuel & Life's needs.

    We could probably Do that toady also.

    Size of the Ship would be the Biggest Issue .
    Sort of like the Space station, a Work in Progress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    We don't. If you know some place on Earth where these odd "beings" are native, please let us know.

    Due to time dilation at extreme speeds, a trip to a star system 500 light years away could pass as if it were ten years for humans aboard the vessel. The round trip might take 1000 years for the folks on Earth to see the ship return, but the original crew would have only seen 20 years go by. Einstein's theory of relativity is why.

    20,000 miles per hour is hardly the upper speed limit for humans today - the Parker Solar Probe surpassed 153,454 miles per hour, and with the theoretical solar sails and ion drive engines we might be able to reach more than 99% of the speed of light.

    There are literally hundreds of billions of galaxies, and billions of stars in each one. No matter how rare intelligent life might be, it is a certainty that other intelligent life does exist elsewhere in our galaxy and universe.

    Now consider that our planet is relatively 'young' by galactic standards, there are many others which are double and triple the age of our own. This makes it very likely that other intelligent life will be more advanced than we are technologically. They very well could have found ways to solve the problems of the vast distances involved with interstellar travel.

    Sure, I know exactly where such creatures might reside. They might be in other dimensions, which have been predicted by String Theory, that are intertwined within our own three dimensional space. They might be just as trapped by earth's gravity as we are.

    You gotta be pretty reckless to assume "space aliens". Like you say, look at the distances involved.
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    But THEN... there are "WORM-HOLES"! "Short-cuts"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    But THEN... there are "WORM-HOLES"! "Short-cuts"...
    I'm not sure I Believe in Worm Holes.
    At least Not as Short Cuts.

    Perhaps maybe into different Dimensions, Or Ultimate Gravity like a Crusher (vacuum) of everything.

    The Description Of Space being Like a piece of paper Being Bent so a Worm hole Can
    take a Quicker Route,,
    Is sort of like Hocus Pocus, Religion, Ghosts, & all that Hoo Doo.
    Which completely Looses me. But Then We don't Know everything
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    Jun. 24, 2019 2:18 PM EDT
    Historical marker commemorates reported alien abduction

    PASCAGOULA, Miss. (AP) — A historical marker has been placed near the river where two men in southern Mississippi said they were abducted by aliens in 1973.

    News outlets report the city of Pascagoula dedicated the marker Saturday at Lighthouse Park.
    Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker said they were on the shores of the Pascagoula River when what appeared to be aliens pulled them onboard a UFO, examined them for about 30 minutes and then returned them to Earth.
    Both reported the event to the sheriff's department and were checked out at a hospital after it happened Oct. 11, 1973. The story has become known worldwide.
    Parker published a book about the experience in 2018. Hickson died in 2011. Both said many people doubted their story. A few witnesses have come forward to corroborate some details.

    https://hosted.ap.org/republicanhera...lien-abduction
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    1973 was a VERY busy year...
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