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  1. #61
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    WOW!!..When i read the original post on this i was like..."ah ok..good luck with that one!" Shows me what a lunatic i am eh?

    Stunning result! Excellent work Breezie on finding it in the first place, and for having the nuts to try your first electrolysis! Also excellent work from cannonball guy on the completion!

    I'll post Breezies original post so folks can scroll down and read cannonball guys detailed process and setup with diagram, for those who'd like to know.

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,419156.0.html

    Well done you two!

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Dano Sverige
    WOW!!..When i read the original post on this i was like..."ah ok..good luck with that one!" Shows me what a lunatic i am eh?

    Stunning result! Excellent work Breezie on finding it in the first place, and for having the nuts to try your first electrolysis! Also excellent work from cannonball guy on the completion!

    I'll post Breezies original post so folks can scroll down and read cannonball guys detailed process and setup with diagram, for those who'd like to know.

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,419156.0.html

    Well done you two!
    Thanks for the cross-reference, Dano. However, after looking at the schematic for a bit, I find something that seems to be contradictory. In the description, TCG mentions that the "red" wire (positive) should be connected to the anode (bucket/metal container) and the "black" wire (negative) to be connected to the item undergoing the electrolysis. The diagram shows another lead going to "ground" (which should be the negative side), which is the same lead as that connected to the bucket.

    It just doesn't make sense that the positive side of the charger would be connected to ground. Explanations anyone??
    Roland

    All electrical devices are powered by smoke......when the smoke escapes, they no longer work.

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Very nice cleaning job & bizarre item
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Finally! How it warms my heart to see some "rust "featured .Excellent job Breezie!!! I love it!
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Heart
    Finally! How it warms my heart to see some "rust "featured on the banner!!! Excellent job Breezie!!! I love it!
    Ahhh, one problem Gypsy, it didn't make the banner According to this post, some folks have voted for it, so maybe there is still some hope GO RUST! Actually, I think this is one of my coolest finds ever. Breezie
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Well it has my vote...LOL...I ,being the connoisseur of fine rust artifacts place this one at the top of the list for wonderful finds...and firmly believes it should be on the banner!
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Heart
    Well it has my vote...LOL...I ,being the connoisseur of fine rust artifacts place this one at the top of the list for wonderful finds...and firmly believes it should be on the banner!

    Good show, Gypsy!!! It's nice to find someone else that sees "treasure" in rust! I'm still pushing for Breezie banner votes because of the original recognition of what she had found and the glorious restoration performed by TCG! (not to mention the education a lot of us received on how to restore the iron!!) This deserves a banner slot!!!
    Roland

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Never seen one of those anywhere, rusted or otherwise. Adding my vote for banner too.

    You deserve it, Breezie!

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Luv the Sambo B.
    K@@L Be@NS.

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    RTDE3, Lookin, Rob, Dano, Cru, Tube, and Nova thank you for your supporting posts Rob, dang, I hate you left 3 guns back at a dump site. I've made that mistake before, now I bring home everything, even ticks and few mosquitoes during the summer time Roland, hopefully TCG will answer your question dealing with the electrolysis.

    I thought I'd post a pic of the Sambo's 'innards' before putting him back together. TCG told me it was totally intact when it came out of the tank, and when he starting removing the shell, it opened-up. I find the simplicity of the mechanisms quite fascinating. As you can see, there are only 2 moving parts, and the metal "C" shaped piece is what locks/cocks the hammer.

    Thanks again,
    Breezie

    PS: The inside looks rusty, but that is an optical illusion from the camera flash. It is not as black & finished as the outside, but cleaner than the pic shows.
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    I thought I found an old cap gun,But I was wrong. Great find Brezzy.
    Chuck

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Sorry about the spelling "Breezie"
    Chuck

  14. #73
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    great find and excellent clean up on this

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by treasure diver
    I thought I found an old cap gun,But I was wrong. Great find Brezzy.
    TreasureD & Indy, thanks for the compliments. So TreasureD, if it wasn't an old cap gun, what was it? When I found Sambo, my heart skipped a few beats when I looked into the hole because I thought it was a Civil War era boot gun. After I brought it home, I was thinking the large glob on top was a rust ball. After about an hour of going through Charles Best book, I realized it was Sambo. Breezie
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    I thought this website was VERY interesting

    http://sableimages.com/cart/sambo-cap-gun-p-62.html
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Breezie
    I thought this website was VERY interesting

    http://sableimages.com/cart/sambo-cap-gun-p-62.html

    Wow! I knew it was a good one, even without any knowledge of such things. This, however, exceeds my expectations and is just another reason it should be on the BANNER!!!!

    C'mon folks, let's get some more votes on this one! Banner! Banner! Banner!
    Roland

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  18. #77

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Breezie mine was a cap gun, but not as old or great of a find as yours. The one I found was a Roy Rodgers, old but no comparison to the Sambo you found.
    Chuck

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    AWESOME FIND!!!!!

    I nominated this as a BANNER find!!!!
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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    I agree...this is definitely BANNER material...Congrats Breezie

    I may not speak for everyone BUT This is the kind of find that gets my juices flowing...I Love it!

    HH Joe

    Regards, Joe (California)

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    Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

    Roland, TreasureFind and Joe, Thank you so much for the banner votes. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on the banner, although I don't think it all depends on the 'number' of votes (but I would think the more, the better.) The admins have to feel it is worthy. Each time I log-in to TNet, I look up to see if SAMBO's smiling face is there. A friend (local, not TNet member) of mine said it might not make the banner because of a 'racial' thing. Of course, I would think in 2011 we would all be mature & intelligent to know this was 'the way things were' back in the 1880's. Again, thank you for your support. Breezie
    Every time I watch Gone With The Wind, I think we're gonna win this time!

 

 
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