Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Rich in Central PA

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Breezie, that is a great find, and TCG did a fantastic job. Nice going to both of you...........Rich :icon_thumright: :icon_thumleft:
 

Roland58

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Breezie said:
Roland, TreasureFind and Joe, Thank you so much for the banner votes. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed on the banner, although I don't think it all depends on the 'number' of votes (but I would think the more, the better.) The admins have to feel it is worthy. Each time I log-in to TNet, I look up to see if SAMBO's smiling face is there. A friend (local, not TNet member) of mine said it might not make the banner because of a 'racial' thing. Of course, I would think in 2011 we would all be mature & intelligent to know this was 'the way things were' back in the 1880's. Again, thank you for your support. :thumbsup: Breezie

I didn't realize it took more than just the "number of votes" to make the banner. Surely, as you said, in this day and age, your find is not being held back for real or imagined racial reasons.
If that is, in fact, the reason, I would find that more of a racial statement than putting the find on the banner! This is simply history and a part of our heritage whether people are repulsed by it or not. Admittedly, there were and, in many cases, still are, examples of disparaging racial actions, but, to use this childs toy as a racial epithet in this setting would be wrong. I think TNet is made up of people adult enough to recognize that as fact.

Until it happens, I'm still pushing for BANNER!
 

Mr Tuff

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

what a beautiful cap gun!!!!!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
 

Gunrunner61

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Breezie !!!!YOU gotta be kidding. thats amazing....And what a cool piece
 

Roland58

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

I'm convinced that there must be some sort of technical trouble with the banner, otherwise, the Sambo cap gun would have been pictured up there by now
 

maipenrai

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Great find and great results on the restoration. I hope TCG can give a play by play to his process, otherwise, he will be flooded with hundreds of questions! I have a whole attic full of junk that needs some serious restoration.
 

Deno

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Breezie, that is a cool find.

Cannonballguys method is the best i have ever seen.

I say banner for both of you.
 

birdman

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Re: Rare Sambo Cap Gun-1897-Before & After Pics

Very nice end result!! Yea ,the Cannon Ball Guy is awesome.He helped me out with my first cannon ball about 5 years ago. It turned out nice after using his elecotrolisis treatment and he also gave me pointers how to get through the wood plug and get the powder out . Very neat relic you found! :coffee2:
 

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Breeze thats one awesome toy handgun,nice find:leprechaun-hat:
 

Gunrunner61

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I told ya then and I'll tell ya again, That was is an Awesome find Breezie, Just Amazing HH
 

glenda

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omg..I have one just like this! we where digging for a doublewide home and my father dug this up with his tractor. he claims that my piece of property use to be a stagecoach stop from greenbay wisc to sault st marie Michigan. Also found a lot of old medicine bottles one looks like a little glass urinal lol, a couple clay pipes and some pottery...I have looked for this or anyone with info on this gun for awhile now and so happy I found this sight. Iam interested in the valu also if anyone knows or can direct me to someone I could find out. not really interested in selling its a really neat item
 

Brother Al

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When Breezie mailed me the Sambo pistol to do the Electrolysis on it, I could tell from its relatively light weight that it was made of comparatively thin cast-iron. I know from experience that using high-amperage electricity on such items can cause loss of detail if an iron relic has much corrosion. So I adjusted my battery charger's current-flow to 1/2-amp. Lower amperage means a "gentler" cleaning.

That being said, it was fortunate that Breezie found her cast-iron cap pistol in soil that was "kind" to iron. (Some soil-types are much more corrosive to iron.) What Electrolysis does is break the electrochemical bond which holds the rust-concretion onto the iron's surface. Electrolysis cannot miraculously "put back" iron molecules which have been corroded away. In other words, it is not a magical cure for the rust-pits which often occur while the iron is in the ground for decades or centuries. I must mention that, because I don't want folks to think Electrolysis can make every iron relic you find look as good as Breezie's cap-pistol turned out.

Actually, the most important reason to do Electrolysis on excavated iron is that it not only makes the rust-concretion easy to remove, it electrochemically neutralizes the rusting which has been happening deep down inside the "micropores" in the iron. Electrolysis prevents the iron from continuing to deteriorate after you dig it up. Unlike other metals such as brass, lead, copper, etc, dug-up iron must be cleaned with Electrolysis, to prevent the corrosion from continuing. (Using a hammer to remove the rust-concretion on the iron's surface doesn't stop corrosion from continuing to happen down inside the iron's pores.)

After doing Electrolysis, and any "fine-detail finishing" work that is needed to remove small bits of remaining rust-crust, the iron should be coated with an oxygen-proof sealant, such as Polyurethane. I suggest MinWax "Satin Finish" Polyurethane (not the high-gloss formula). It costs about $6.50 for a spray-can of it at WalMart. MinWax "Satin Finish" Polyurethane is what I used on Breezie's cap-pistol.

Very informative and much appreciated. Beautiful work sir. Brother Al.
 

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CoinmasterIV

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What an INCREDIBLE find! And one you must be VERY proud to display after a fantastic restoration! Banner for sure.....

~ Alan
 

jcobb

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This is the coolest find I've ever seen!!!
Congrats it turned out beautiful
 

Tnmountains

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Who would have thought that rusty little cap gun would turn out to be such a beautiful piece. I also learned some things to change on my electrolysis set up. What a great story from rust to treasure.
You have my vote.
 

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WoW! ...That's wonderful Breezie, I'd not seen this before and with such great results in restoration. Thanks also to CanonBallGuy for seeing to it that this treasure was restored so superbly.:hello2:
 

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