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    Mod. 1911 .45 cal. Lost Pistol

    Here are the photos after electrolysis.

    It turned out that the pistol is Mod. 1911, not Mod. 1911A1. Mod. 1911 was produced from 1911 till 1924. The main visible difference is the hump on the back of the grip. On the Mod. 1911 there was no hump because they had a straight main spring. When the new design was issued, Mod. 1911A1 in 1924, they redesigned the main spring and made it with a curve. The hand grip had to be altered to accommodate the curve and from then on there was a hump on the back side of the hand grip below the grip safety.

    This thing could have been lost in the 1920's because of the deterioration of the metal. There were lots of places that the metal had been entirely eaten away. I lost the front sight. Lost the safety lever. Holes in the slide rail. Part of the hammer spur. And just general deterioration.

    There is not a round in the chamber. I can't see clearly but there may be a round in the upper part of the magazine. I don't have the heart to try and remove the magazine to find out.

    What a shame that such a classic firearm is ruined. Makes me want to seek one out to put with it. I have included a photo from a firearms auction of what it used to look like.

    It's my understanding that there were only about 10,000 of them produced. This one may well be a WWI veteran.
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    Last edited by Curious The George; Jan 19, 2016 at 03:30 PM.

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    Tremendous find! Congrats......Hogge
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    Looks like it is cleaning up well. Congratulations Again!

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    Yeah that poor thing has sure seen better days. It looks good cleaned up though and it's a great relic for display.

    If you do want to get a nice original military surplus 1911, the Civilian Marksmanship Program is going to be selling the last of them still in government storage starting sometime this year : Sales & Services - Civilian Marksmanship ProgramCivilian Marksmanship Program
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    That piece has come a long way.
    Nice job and keep us posted.
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    Sure looks a whole lot better
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken View Post
    If you do want to get a nice original military surplus 1911, the Civilian Marksmanship Program is going to be selling the last of them still in government storage starting sometime this year : Sales & Services - Civilian Marksmanship ProgramCivilian Marksmanship Program
    Thanks for the tip Ken. I have three '03s and one M-1 from CMP. I had not been paying attention lately.
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    That's a pretty cool find. You should totally send it in for repairs to the CMP lol
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    Wow! Thanks for the update. Are you planning to go back to the site and look again?

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    For the condition she was is she cleaned up well!!
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    Oh that is bloody cool man! Were you worried about electrolysis and live rounds? Jk.

    That'll look phenomenal in a display!


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    I have one that I've owned for quite a while and it looks as nice as the firearms auction photo, and still shoots well. I have always liked the way they handle since being in the Army from 1966 to 1970. The one you found is still an amazing find. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMetal View Post
    Are you planning to go back to the site and look again?
    Been to the wooded area quite a few times. It is very near the site of a skirmish between Cavalry from Stoneman's raid and a group of South Carolina Cavalry that resulted in the SC guys being captured. Hunted the woods extensively. It's around 15 acres of woods so there is still plenty of ground a coil hasn't passed over yet and I and my hunting partner Buck will go at it again soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    Were you worried about electrolysis and live rounds? Jk.
    No, not at all. To set off a round of standard ammunition it takes a strike on the primer. There was no round in the chamber and if there is one or two rounds in the magazine there was nothing to hit the primer in there. And as long as this thing has been in the ground I had no doubt that moisture had made it's way into any cartridge that might be in there.
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