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That depends on the condition of the brass. I forget the term, but some folks who reload modern ammo go through a process that makes the brass a little softer so it can be resized. Someone will pipe up with the term I’m sure.
However, I can get you replica bullets if you want, I shoot civil war arms in competition and know a few guys that shoot model 5 burnsides, I shoot an original Smith carbine and the bullets look similar but I believe the burnside is .54 caliber.
 

buck8point

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Annealing
heating metal and then letting it cool slowly, changes the crystalline structure and softens the metal, as opposed to tempering which is heating metal and quenching it quickly to harden it.
 

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Annealing
heating metal and then letting it cool slowly, changes the crystalline structure and softens the metal, as opposed to tempering which is heating metal and quenching it quickly to harden it.
That’s it!!!!!!!! Thank you
 

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The a a Burnside bullet a a flattened Burnside cartridge. I need it opened up and set the bullet in the case to the original condition. Can anyone do that?

Can you post a pic of the cartridge ? show us how flat it is. You might be able to do it yourself.
 

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Can you post a pic of the cartridge ? show us how flat it is. You might be able to do it yourself.
That’s a good idea truth, post a picture if you can bud
 

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Sorry I’ve been sick with this damn flu ugggh
 

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Maybe if you can open the end of the cartridge just enough (with something like a standard screwdriver) To insert a tapered wooden dowel .You might be able to open it up the rest of the way by pounding the dowel end with a hammer. dunno.
 

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Annealing
heating metal and then letting it cool slowly, changes the crystalline structure and softens the metal, as opposed to tempering which is heating metal and quenching it quickly to harden it.

Annealing brass/copper is just the opposite. Heat it up, then quench.
But old brass, is very fragile, and tends to crumble.
 

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Wow those are way flat, i am a metal worker, that is going to take a special touch to get them close to original state.
 

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Maybe if you can open the end of the cartridge just enough (with something like a standard screwdriver) To insert a tapered wooden dowel .You might be able to open it up the rest of the way by pounding the dowel end with a hammer. dunno.

You know since I have 3 cartridges I might try it on one.
 

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Man thats gonna be sketchy at best..
2 already appear to be real brittle, and have cracks.
if ya try it, go real slow, and take your time... use something soft like a plastic spudger maybe.
 

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Truth, those are some cool looking Burnside casings. Best of luck to you.
 

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Make an outside mold by drilling a hole the same size or smaller than your finish cartridge. This will support the sides of the shell and keep the metal from stretching too far.
After annealing the cartridge with a low flame propane torch, use a sharpened (with rounded end) hardwood dowel to reshape the cartridge. Good luck.
 

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