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Aug 25, 2009, 06:44 PM
#1
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Not sure these finds are RW finds.
These are some finds I have found.Not sure they are RW artifacts but purdy sure they date to that time and before.Maybe you Tneters could help with them.
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:08 AM
#2
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
They are definitely around that era. Would like to see closeup pics of the 2 buttons to the far left. Also the coin at the far left. Did you get a date off the KG?(third in from the right). That's a nice one too. Nice site there. Would hit it again...and again and......
1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*, Royal Irish Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:18 AM
#3
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
Yes, I'm curious about the hourglass design buttons as well. Maybe repost some of the items separately in the "What is it?" section. Clasp knives were usually made of iron--so I'm not certain that's a period piece with the brass on it... but the lead, gun flint, and coins are all from the right era, but I don't see any specifically RW buttons or items. I don't know how common a marked regt. button is though, when huning RW or F&I W sites.
-Buckles
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Aug 26, 2009, 09:19 AM
#4
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
Thanks guy's for taking time to look.You will have to bare with me on these shots.My camera won't let me in but so close even on macro mode.But these have came from one site.Truth be told only the edge of this site.Rivers edge have tried to get up in the woods twice since I found it.First time steped up to go in and loaded down with ticks right away.Second time brought spray started up ran into cottonmouth (snake).Will get in there just waiting on winter.I fill I have ID most of the coins.The copper coin hogge wanted to see with the larger harp design not to sure of. Buttons have not.Never found anything on them.Also added the bottle that I found to the pick it had came from there to.
Thanks ahead!
Timekiller!
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Aug 26, 2009, 09:21 AM
#5
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
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Aug 26, 2009, 09:50 AM
#6
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
I would say that posting these items in the "What is it?" section of this website is best. Few people look at posts here in the Rev War section.
The bottle is a 1700s bottle. I have no idea what it's worth, but it is a SPECTACULAR find. Post that one in the "bottles and glass" section for more information from the experts there.
The buttons with the hourglass I have seen somewhere before. I'll bet Don in SJ might know--or Iron Patch. I'll send them a link to this thread.
Regards,
Buckles
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Aug 26, 2009, 10:08 AM
#7
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
I would say that posting these items in the "What is it?" section of this website is best. Few people look at posts here in the Rev War section.
The bottle is a 1700s bottle. I have no idea what it's worth, but it is a SPECTACULAR find. Post that one in the "bottles and glass" section for more information from the experts there.
The buttons with the hourglass I have seen somewhere before. I'll bet Don in SJ might know--or Iron Patch. I'll send them a link to this thread.
Regards,
Buckles
Thanks Buckles,I had already on the bottle.The other I believe I did to in the what is it section.Just never got a responce on them as to what they are.
Thanks again Buck!
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Aug 26, 2009, 11:25 AM
#8
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
Looks like a 1 real- Carolus III, a spanish Cobb, and an Irish Copper. The buttons are awesome! The bottle is a fantastic find to get intact. Probably a hand blown Ale bottle. You got quite a spot there! The other coin with all the patina on it, could be either Spanish or French. Need the experts on this one. There is enough to ID it for sure. VERY INTERESTED on what the experts say about those buttons. I would put those picks in the button category. GEEZ, wish I was there with ya!
1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*, Royal Irish Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I
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Aug 26, 2009, 11:55 AM
#9
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
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Aug 26, 2009, 12:14 PM
#10
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
Just to let you know about extreme.I see we have a storm brewing off shore!Always a good time to hit these spots like this as they begin to pull by us.Wind South west screaming tide extra low.Sounds good to me!
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Aug 26, 2009, 06:53 PM
#11
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
The pewters are cool but I don't know, the bottle and silver is awesome! ... and there's the counterfeit Hibernia I like. Exactly the kind of stuff I like to see turn up.
AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:17 PM
#12
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
The pewters are cool but I don't know, the bottle and silver is awesome! ... and there's the counterfeit Hibernia I like. Exactly the kind of stuff I like to see turn up.
Thanks Patch,Yea you had seen the counterfiet before and told me that was what it was Thanks for that.The buttons I guess are going to remain a mystery.Strange in away.But being here on the coast hard to say so old.For all I know could be pirate buttons.Some of the stuff I guess isn't that far from the time of them.Thought some one might had seen some like them before.Guess not . Don't have a button book of any kind nothing on the web don't know what else to do really.Mabe some day I'll find out somehow.If so let you all know.
Thanks Again,
Timekiller!
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:21 PM
#13
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by timekiller
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
The pewters are cool but I don't know, the bottle and silver is awesome! ... and there's the counterfeit Hibernia I like. Exactly the kind of stuff I like to see turn up.
Thanks Patch,Yea you had seen the counterfiet before and told me that was what it was Thanks for that.The buttons I guess are going to remain a mystery.Strange in away.But being here on the coast hard to say so old.For all I know could be pirate buttons.Some of the stuff I guess isn't that far from the time of them.Thought some one might had seen some like them before.Guess not  . Don't have a button book of any kind nothing on the web don't know what else to do really.Mabe some day I'll find out somehow.If so let you all know.
Thanks Again,
Timekiller!
Don in SJ has some good contacts with button collectors. I'd drop him a line.
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:21 PM
#14
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by timekiller
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
The pewters are cool but I don't know, the bottle and silver is awesome! ... and there's the counterfeit Hibernia I like. Exactly the kind of stuff I like to see turn up.
Thanks Patch,Yea you had seen the counterfiet before and told me that was what it was Thanks for that.The buttons I guess are going to remain a mystery.Strange in away.But being here on the coast hard to say so old.For all I know could be pirate buttons.Some of the stuff I guess isn't that far from the time of them.Thought some one might had seen some like them before.Guess not  . Don't have a button book of any kind nothing on the web don't know what else to do really.Mabe some day I'll find out somehow.If so let you all know.
Thanks Again,
Timekiller!
The buttons are the kind of odd ball thing that you generally wouldn't find in a book. They remind me of some pewters I found at a site having what looks like a ship's wheel. (late 18th century)
AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:27 PM
#15
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
I don't think you'll ever get an answer more than it just being a representation piece.
If nothing else this is interesting.
Symbolic uses
Pirate Christopher Moody's "Bloody Red" jack, c. 1714
Unlike most other methods of measuring time, the hourglass concretely represents the present as being between the past and the future, and this has made it an enduring symbol of time itself.
The hourglass, sometimes with the addition of metaphorical wings, is often depicted as a symbol that human existence is fleeting, and that the "sands of time" will run out for every human life.[10] It was used thus on pirate flags, to strike fear into the hearts of the pirates' victims. In England, hourglasses were sometimes placed in coffins,[11] and they have graced gravestones for centuries.
AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:51 PM
#16
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
I don't think you'll ever get an answer more than it just being a representation piece.
If nothing else this is interesting.
Symbolic uses
Pirate Christopher Moody's "Bloody Red" jack, c. 1714
Unlike most other methods of measuring time, the hourglass concretely represents the present as being between the past and the future, and this has made it an enduring symbol of time itself.
The hourglass, sometimes with the addition of metaphorical wings, is often depicted as a symbol that human existence is fleeting, and that the "sands of time" will run out for every human life.[10] It was used thus on pirate flags, to strike fear into the hearts of the pirates' victims. In England, hourglasses were sometimes placed in coffins,[11] and they have graced gravestones for centuries.
You seem to be a knowledgable Man there patch,always enjoy your wisdom.I had seen some info on the hourglasses before.But if I don't deal with it everyday I seem to forget.Mine Overload I guess for me.
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:56 PM
#17
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
 Originally Posted by timekiller
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
The pewters are cool but I don't know, the bottle and silver is awesome! ... and there's the counterfeit Hibernia I like. Exactly the kind of stuff I like to see turn up.
Thanks Patch,Yea you had seen the counterfiet before and told me that was what it was Thanks for that.The buttons I guess are going to remain a mystery.Strange in away.But being here on the coast hard to say so old.For all I know could be pirate buttons.Some of the stuff I guess isn't that far from the time of them.Thought some one might had seen some like them before.Guess not  . Don't have a button book of any kind nothing on the web don't know what else to do really.Mabe some day I'll find out somehow.If so let you all know.
Thanks Again,
Timekiller!
Don in SJ has some good contacts with button collectors. I'd drop him a line.
Thank you again to there Buckles!
Timekiller!
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Aug 26, 2009, 08:57 PM
#18
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by timekiller
Thank you again to there Buckles!
Timekiller!
I just talked to Don in the chat room. He looked for the button, and it doesn't appear to be in any of his military button books.
Nor mine. 
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Aug 26, 2009, 09:08 PM
#19
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
 Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
 Originally Posted by timekiller
Thank you again to there Buckles!
Timekiller!
I just talked to Don in the chat room. He looked for the button, and it doesn't appear to be in any of his military button books.
Nor mine.
Right on Buckles,I guess we all have ran in to these sort of things one time or another.Sure is aggravating though isn't it?Makes me want to know even more now!
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Aug 27, 2009, 08:52 AM
#20
 I Often Find Myself Killing Time Looking For What Time Has Killed!
Re: Not sure these finds are RW finds.
Two more items I had forgot about from this site.And a auction site I ran across last night looking again.Has quite a few buttons in it.
http://www.juliaauctions.com/auction....asp?pageREQ=4
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