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  1. #1
    us
    Mar 2009
    Tuscarawas County, Ohio
    Tesoro Tejon
    681
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    Relic Hunting

    Ball mold and ball...

    Found the ball last summer. The mold was found this past Sunday about 100 feet away from the ball. Dug in Ohio. Two military expeditions came through this area. One in 1764 (Bouquet's expedition) and one in 1778 (McIntosh's). The area I hunt is wooded and on public hunting land. I acquired a map of Bouquet's expedition which has their trail imposed over a modern topo map. These finds were on that "trail". The ball measures .052". Does anyone think these could have come from one of those expeditions? I have also included a photo of some ball molds from a Revolutionary War collectors book.

    Thanks for looking.
    -Swartzie
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    Oldest coins: KG II Halfpence (1727-1760), Liberty Cap 1/2 cent (1795-1797), 1808 1/2 Real.

  2. #2
    us
    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
    Minelab EX II & Musketeer, White's Classic
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    Re: Ball mold and ball...

    Hard to say... But looking at the ball, it looks like the camera flash reflected off it. In my area, old (CW era) bullets come out of the ground with a chalky white patina. They almost look like stone - not shiny at all. Also I think 52 is still a commonly used muzzleloader caliber. I suspect your bullet is modern.

    I can't speak to the mold.

    DCMatt
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    Ralph Waldo Emerson

  3. #3

    Oct 2007
    Tesoro Silver UMax
    212

    Re: Ball mold and ball...

    Hi... I've been studying musket balls for several years and find they can turn white, brown, green, gray, yellowish... many different colors. It all depends on the soil. If they're in water they seem to oxide less and stay grayer. They won't be silver-shiny unless they're brand new, and this one doesn't look new at all.

    Gotta disagree with DC and say it looks consistent with very old ones I've seen and found. The mold looks good too. I think you have a good piece there.

  4. #4
    us
    Mar 2009
    Tuscarawas County, Ohio
    Tesoro Tejon
    681
    1 times
    Relic Hunting

    Re: Ball mold and ball...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkDz
    Hi... I've been studying musket balls for several years and find they can turn white, brown, green, gray, yellowish... many different colors. It all depends on the soil. If they're in water they seem to oxide less and stay grayer. They won't be silver-shiny unless they're brand new, and this one doesn't look new at all.

    Gotta disagree with DC and say it looks consistent with very old ones I've seen and found. The mold looks good too. I think you have a good piece there.
    Hey, that sounds good to me. I did find another ball in the same area. Same caliber. The two balls and the mold were like fifty feet from each other in a somewhat straight line. Definitely makes me want to keep working the woods. It would be awesome if these were from the 1764 expedition. The journal from that expedition did say they carried small fusils and only a few of the larger rifles. But, I'm thinking more like .69 caliber and not a wee little .52. But, hey, who knows. Still a very cool find for an amateur like myself. Hopefully I can find something that can be dated with accuracy. Thanks for the replies fellas.

    -Swartzie
    Oldest coins: KG II Halfpence (1727-1760), Liberty Cap 1/2 cent (1795-1797), 1808 1/2 Real.

 

 

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