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Jun 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
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Jun 12, 2012 01:03 PM
# ADS
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Jun 13, 2012, 10:47 AM
#2
is it one pieceyou're showing us? do you see any striations in it? possibly an apache tear.
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Jun 13, 2012, 10:58 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by mamabear
is it one pieceyou're showing us? do you see any striations in it? possibly an apache tear.
Yes it is all one item, I don't know a lot about gems or the terms so can you explain? I know that it holds light but doesn't shine through its very odd
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 14, 2012, 09:02 AM
#4
First Image appears to be purple aventurine, While the last two iamges.. are not app tear.. but could be leaning more towards the herkemer diamond aspect.. Try to get an image without a reflection from under the stone..
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Jun 14, 2012, 10:00 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by OurJeepLife
First Image appears to be purple aventurine, While the last two iamges.. are not app tear.. but could be leaning more towards the herkemer diamond aspect.. Try to get an image without a reflection from under the stone..



Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 14, 2012, 10:15 AM
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Much better pictures.
I also thought it was two stones at first as well. But you description on the translucency of the stone makes me agree with Mamabear.
An Apache tear is Obsidian, volcanic glass. Can be black, red, or brown. Should have a hardness around 5.5. If it is some kind of dark quartz it should have a hardness of 7.
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Jun 14, 2012, 10:31 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Bajahunter
Much better pictures.
I also thought it was two stones at first as well. But you description on the translucency of the stone makes me agree with Mamabear.
An Apache tear is Obsidian, volcanic glass. Can be black, red, or brown. Should have a hardness around 5.5. If it is some kind of dark quartz it should have a hardness of 7.
I havnt found anything that will scratch it that's why I'm so curious I used a file on it and it didn't scratch it
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 14, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Quartz is harder than a file. If it is harder than quartz it might be a Topaz, but I see no crystal structure in the photo.
You might need to find somebody with a hardness testing kit.
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Jun 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Bajahunter
Quartz is harder than a file. If it is harder than quartz it might be a Topaz, but I see no crystal structure in the photo.
You might need to find somebody with a hardness testing kit.
Ok thanks for the tips I wish it were a diamond!
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 14, 2012, 02:12 PM
#10
 What will it effect, when all is done?
Hi...I found this website and this is similar to a couple of your "gems" that you showed today and another post (the clear rock that looked diamond-like)
Hope this helps...(and these gems are worth varying amounts of money, so keep onto them)...
Look at the 22nd photo down from the top of this website page
Oligoclase Specimens
Just search through rough gems/minerals on google images and find something close...?
MinerGirl
Last edited by MinerGirl; Jun 14, 2012 at 02:15 PM.
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Jun 14, 2012, 02:18 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by MinerGirl
Hi...I found this website and this is similar to a couple of your "gems" that you showed today and another post (the clear rock that looked diamond-like)
Hope this helps...(and these gems are worth varying amounts of money, so keep onto them)...
Look at the 22nd photo down from the top of this website page
Oligoclase Specimens
Just search through rough gems/minerals on google images and find something close...?
MinerGirl
Thanks! Your the best!
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 15, 2012, 04:40 PM
#12
I would also like to know more about the hardness.
My first impression was also apache tear, however the colour throws me off. Almost like Iolite, but not quite.
When you view it from different directions, does the colour or the colour tone change? Rotate it in hand and look. 
Iolite seems to change colour from different directions.
Do you know of any lapidary club or rock related club in your area?
Maybe they could help you further there.
Do you know how to recognize milky quartz?
Geologists are gneiss, tuff, and a little wacke.
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Jun 15, 2012, 04:57 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by Eu_citzen
I would also like to know more about the hardness.
My first impression was also apache tear, however the colour throws me off. Almost like Iolite, but not quite.
When you view it from different directions, does the colour or the colour tone change? Rotate it in hand and look. 
Iolite seems to change colour from different directions.
Do you know of any lapidary club or rock related club in your area?
Maybe they could help you further there.
Do you know how to recognize milky quartz?
No it seems to stay the same color....when I hold it up to the sunlight it has a grayish blue color almost like gun metal....its hard to describe really....but what's so strange is that when its in my hand it looks totally dark gray and non-transparent but as you move it into the light its like glass, you can see into it clearly but no all the way through it. I sould like a crazy man
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 15, 2012, 05:18 PM
#14
It's no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense. Mark Twain
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Jun 18, 2012, 05:00 PM
#15
 What will it effect, when all is done?
Johnathan...You're so Funny!!...I'm cracking up at your post.."I sound like a crazy man"..Haha
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Jun 18, 2012, 10:08 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by MinerGirl
Johnathan...You're so Funny!!...I'm cracking up at your post.."I sound like a crazy man"..Haha
Hahaha thanks!
Johnathan Griswold
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Jun 19, 2012, 04:08 PM
#17
Johnathan, I'm still leaning more towards obsidian/apache tears then. From you description we can say it isn't Iolite. 
I've seen the exact "phenomena" you describe in obsidian.
Geologists are gneiss, tuff, and a little wacke.
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