average depth of Spanish ship wrecks

keysync

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I certainly don't know how much treasure or how many cache's there are in this country but seems to me the treasure tracker is vague in it's directional capabilities. Any one can point a finger and say there's treasure that way now go look. I suppose I'm being ignorant.
Another point for me wondering about the actual usefulness of this treasure tracker is :

Why in gods green earth would you do geophsical surveys for a living.

I know if I had something that could find treasure in the ocean up to 10 miles away, I would be rowing a boat if I had to.


Great idea
Maybe it's better than I think it is.
Maybe it's not.

my .02 also.
 

Bigcypresshunter

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Whatever happened to your invention? Did you get rich? Did you take the $25,000 challenge? I cant pull up your website.
 

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Why resurect a 5 year old post? Its obviously a dead subject and "Colorado" is not around anymore.
 

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I just rediscovered this old post by accident while searching for something else and was curious how the invention panned out.
Colorados email with TN is still active or it would be deleted. Are they still in business? Do you know him?

Yes, a very old post. Seems like yesterday. I guess its too late too delete it now. :-\
 

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hello it has been a long time since I have posted here. I recieved an e-mail notifying me that there was a reply. Which I too was supprised that the post was still here. To answer your questions.
Nope not rich!
and of course it is obveious to assume the instrumentation doesn't work. There now see many of you were right! Colorado
 

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shipwrecks of old are lot like modern wrecks in one respect --(seldom does a ship just "break up" due to structurail failure in deep waters --it very very rare) a vessel sinking normally occurs due to striking the bottom in shallow waters or running "aground" in one way or another and often in bad weather -- loss of steering (rudder) or power -- if a sailing vessel having its sails blown to shreads --being blown ashore into the shallow waters -- in hurricane force winds is no picnic -- with the vessel "bucking" up and down "pounding" the bottom" out of her as she hits bottom unti the hull breaks up .

old spanish treasure vessels often ran not more than about 20 foot deep in draft -- with huge waves say 30 foot the from top to the trough of the wave 50 feet and under is "prime waters " --with 20 to 40 foot peak zones -- but shallower water and the beach areas can have wreckage also due to it being "blown" ashore
 

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The 1589 fleet was hit by a hurricane and the 4 largest galleons sank in deep water at the mouth of the Bahama Channel. The Santa Catalina had her "prow open up" and sank with all hands. Yes, this is a rare case but poorly maintained vessels do sink in deep water.
 

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I am a old seaman from a almost 300 year long old sea going family ( I am the last of a long line sadly - there are no more sea going folks in the family since I retired) like I said its a very "rare event" when a vessel just "falls to pieces" and breaks up or sinks without striking something , massive structurial failure can happen but normally it only occurs only to very old rather unkept up vessels which are unseaworthy to begin with -- and most seaman will not get on such a "death trap", since they do want to live after all. -- in modern terms todays seaman call these "floating disastars "--- "rust buckets" or "death traps"

the vast majority (99%) of the spanish treasure vessels that wrecked -- wrecked in shallow waters due to hurricanes or extreme bad weather *--- you see before 1730 --the spanish (like all sea going folks of that time ) used "dead reckoning" navagation --using known "land marks" on sea charts to plot their course by --this of course required the to be within - "sight" of land --thus in shallow coastal waters --- if a violent storm was to strike them and render them unable to get out into the safer "deep waters" offshore (say a broken rudder or shredded sails - broken mast) the wave action would drive her aground breaking her up --

deep water ship wrecks were mainly caused by one of two things --- structrail failure (weak hull / breaking up due to hull being over stressed in bad weather) or military type action / warfare.
 

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:hello2: Ahoy Ivan, another cause of serious structural failure is "to much insurance". :headbang: :laughing9:
 

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Colorado said:
hello it has been a long time since I have posted here. I recieved an e-mail notifying me that there was a reply. Which I too was supprised that the post was still here. To answer your questions.
Nope not rich!
and of course it is obveious to assume the instrumentation doesn't work. There now see many of you were right! Colorado
sorry. Thanks for the honesty. :icon_thumright: 8)
 

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Hello Colorado,

Just to answer your original question - according to the statistics, 90% of all shipwrecks in the Caribbean are not deeper than 30 feet of water. It has a logic. They mainly struck the uncharted reefs or were driven to the shore by hurricanes. Viceversa - and again according to the statistics - 90% of all the shipwrecks in the Meditarrean are deeper than 100 feet of water.
I hope it helps.

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Colorado said:
hello it has been a long time since I have posted here. I recieved an e-mail notifying me that there was a reply. Which I too was supprised that the post was still here. To answer your questions.
Nope not rich!
and of course it is obveious to assume the instrumentation doesn't work. There now see many of you were right! Colorado
Hello Colorado. Originally I thought it was cool that you are honest but now I have a question.

You had a website and Treasure Hunting business where you were paid to use this invention to do surveys on finding gold and treasure. I believe it was called the Treasure_Tracker. My question is, are you now admitting to scamming people or were you scammed by the inventor into believing this machine really worked? ???
 

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big cy -- if I remember right --- he was talking about possible water use -- maybe it might work on land but not water --or as you say --he might have got "snake bit" by a slickster. ---doubt if he was doing the scamming he would post about it -- common sense tells ya that. :wink: :icon_thumright:
 

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Colorado said:
and of course it is obveious to assume the instrumentation doesn't work. There now see many of you were right!

It was obvious to begin with.
 

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Carl-NC said:
Colorado said:
and of course it is obveious to assume the instrumentation doesn't work. There now see many of you were right!

It was obvious to begin with.
Long time Carl. I was wondering if you were still here.
 

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SWR said:
I think Kelly was the creator of that device.
So Kelly scammed ColoradoMike and he fell for it? Together they opened a business and at some later point Mike realized it was all a scam and money was lost and the business went under? I would have liked to hear Mike tell the story but does that sound about right? I remember they flew to several different states with this machine and the results were impressive from what Mike said.
 

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So we are saying the device dosent work?
I have been courious about the positive posts from members that have posted less than 10 times
Brady
 

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