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    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Cornelius,
    You have helped everyone on this forum. Divers and non - divers alike. Several years ago I did some extensive research and an on site search on a wreck that had a vast amount of coins washing up on the beach after storms. The research went back to the late 1800's.
    I conducted a mag survey on site and spoke with people that recovered gold coins from the beach directly infront of this wreck. The wreck is located about 100 yds. from shore. I never dove on the wreck as this wreck was put on the back burner because of another site that I was involved in south of the border. Cornelius, if you are up to it and want to recruit divers and non-divers from this forum, I will coordinate with you and show you where the wreck is located in Virginia. I have one Spanish 2 reale from 1748 that was recovered from the beach. If someone has a boat around 25 feet and others can contribute, as well, as sign a non-disclosure, I am willing to let Cornelius put this operation together. Cornelius here's your chance to run an operation, it can start out small. What do you and the others on this forum say. I am willing to take a back seat and see if you guys can make this work.

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    pvet

    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Ed, I have the boat and the time . Wait till spring and we will go get it.
    Phil

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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Phil,
    First, I would like to see if Cornelius would like to put this together and run with it, with you and other members of this forum. It's up to Cornelius what he wants to do or if he even wants to get involved. Let's see what he has to say. In the interium, anyone that wants to get involved, here's your chance. Speak up.

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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Cornelius,
    The wreck and believe me, it is an old wooden wreck and it is off of a barrier island in Virginia. Actually, from my research there is also an old Engish Warship that was sunk in the same general area. I have some of the wooden timbers from the wreck in my basement. They were found on the beach. The project is yours, tell the people on the forum what you need and see if they can provide it, ie... equipment, man hours and whatever esle you need. I will provide you with whatever you need from me. It's your show, let's make it work.

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    Aug 2003
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    It's a deal Cornelius.

    Old Man

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    May 2005
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Sounds like you guys are going to have some fun. I do not know this area at all, but there is lots of info about the islands, for interest I have one incomplete list for you.

    THESE ARE SOME OF THE SHIPS THAT CAME TO GRIEF OFF THE VIRGINIA COAST

    Amaganzette swamped off Virginia
    Anglo African sunk off Cape Charles
    USCG Cuyahoga collision off Smith Point, Virginia
    Doxie Girl sank off Virginia
    Admiral Graf Spee
    Ethel C. sunk off Virginia
    Eureka collision off Virginia
    Francis E. Powell torpedoed off Virginia
    Gulf Hustler swamped off Virginia
    Hanks swamped off Virginia
    Juno Spanish ship lost in storm 1802according to decision of 4th circuit (Virginia v. Spain)Spain still owns her.
    John Morgan collision off Virginia
    HMS Kingston Ceylonite torpedoed off Virginia
    La Galga hurricane 1750 Also contested in Virginia v. Spain, but Spain abonded her in 1763.
    Lillian Lukenbach collision off Virginia
    Marine Electric sunk off Virginia
    Merida collision off Virginia
    Ocean Venture torpedoed off Virginia
    Santore struck mine off Virginia
    Tiger torpedoed off Virginia
    USS Washington bombed as target off Virginia
    Winthorp foundered off Virginia
    William D. Sanner collision Chesapeake Bay


  7. #7

    Dec 2004
    25

    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Well guys, i suggest you read this article before you go further !

    http://shipwreck.net/gsarticle08.html


    Capela


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    us
    Aug 2003
    East Coast
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    Capela,
    I know about Spain claiming all of their Treasure wrecks, I'm leaning towards this being more of the Pirate variety.

    Old Man

  9. #9

    Dec 2004
    The Lone Star State
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    just another ploy by the government to keep the poorboy down, its all big business now nothing else
    Explorer II
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    Bounty Hunter 505

  10. #10

    Dec 2004
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    would the new laws concerning treasure found in virginia apply to this found in the water ? if so, would it even be worthwhile to pursue the wreck ? depending on when or if it is done , i may have an interest in helping out...i am not a diver, but have two good friends who are, and they are also trustworthy.. i just never liked the thought of being a fish lure, but could offer assistance on the topside..........................gldhntr

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    Dec 2004
    The Lone Star State
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    good luck guys we're rooten for ya
    Dave- wage slave
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  12. #12
    us
    Feb 2004
    lake mary florida
    Wesmar SHD700SS Side Scan Sonar,U/W Mac 1 Turbo Aquasound by American Electronics,Fisher 1280x,Aquasound UW md,Aqua pulse AQ1B
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    any new shipwrecks found in the USA that are to get permits on by whatever state they are found in are now classified as Unknown or Pirate ships.
    Millions of dollars of Spanish treasure await those who would dare brave the eye of the hurricane.

  13. #13

    Oct 2005
    Maryland
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    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.


    hmmm, i'd be glad to help with the man hours part. I think i can be trusted, if you like,
    contact me and i can prove where i work at, a federal org that requires the utmost secrecy!
    now working there isn't a secret, so i can say, just can't discuss what we do there. But if i
    did anything in my personal life that caused my credibility to be in question, then i could lose
    my job and clearances, and i won't let that happen!
    As for this thread, i live near the barrier islands and would be more than happy to contribute in
    some way. Being a part of the recovery would be the treasure for me! So holler if this gets
    off the ground and you're looking for folks, whether its a driver to not get lost or a person to
    help load or drive the boat or whatever, I'm game!
    Noob MDist/Coin Collector/Treasure Seeker

  14. #14
    us
    Oct 2005
    Kill Devil Hills NC
    none yet
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    Shipwrecks

    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    I have been on the sidelines long enough, this is close enough to my neighborhood, I will dive and salvage, and will provide a platform....boat, that is , and can provide references, but would like to meet in person before total commitment, Dave, I'am interested in Virginia Gold

  15. #15
    us
    Aug 2005
    Warrenton, VA
    Garrett CX II/Sovereign SX-2a Pro/Quattro
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    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: Wreck with Gold Coins washing up on the beach.

    I would love to be involved with a dive/recovery. Virginia Gold sounds great.
    Before you go too far though, someone better check up on the laws of salvage and recovery. (see Cabela's post) As has been demonstrated before, Virginia claims anything less than three miles offshore is on state owned land and can't be touched without severe consequences. And since this is a public thread( and most of us know where the ship is) it can't be searched without the world knowing what is being done.
    Virginia's new laws about treasure hunting and recovery (took effect 7/01/05) are Draconian at best.
    Because this is in/next to/ close to a State land area, they can extend the three mile limit almost as far as they wish in the interest of protecting historically significant objects...even if they can't say what those objects are.
    P.S. I think we should all get shirts made (like Old Blue) with Avocational Archeologist, Virginia Chapter printed on the pocket...and a smiley faced THer on the back.
    grizzly bare

 

 
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