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Aug 01, 2004, 11:00 AM
#1
1750 wrecks
I have a lot on the 1750 stuff:
1. Frigate Ship of War "Nuestra Senora del Carmen" alias "La Galga" alias "Greyhound" The King's 50 gun war ship, commanded by Don Daniel Huoni or (Mahoney, Mahoni, Ohoney, Honi, ) Lost 15 Leagues Northward of Cape Charles with all it's cargo, everyone was saved except one soldier.
2. Don Manuel de Bonillas's Dutch built Hamburg Amburguez (Navio) "Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe" alias "Augusta Celi" alias "La Nympha" Lost Ocacock Inlet, North Carolina, all the people saved.
3. Don Francisco Arizon's; commander; Don Juan Cruanio; Packet boat "El Salvador" alias "El Henrique" Cartagena Snow Resiter; Lost 15 Leagues Southward of Ocacock, everyone drowned except 3 men and 1 boy, all the cargo lost.
4. Portuguese small frigate named "San Pedro" or "Saint Peter" Cartagena Register commander John Kelly and Supercargo Don Manuel Martines de Aquair; Arrived at Norfolk.
5. Small Schooner a brigantine, or Zumaca named, "Nuestra Senora de la Merced" alias "La Mercede" Property of the King; Commander Don Antonio Barroso; Lost 6 Leagues Northward of Cape Charles, no cargo saved but all the people survived.
6. Small Frigate "Nuestra Senora de la Soledad y San Francisco Xavier" of Don Jose de Respaldizar and Don Manuel de Molbudro; Lost 10 Leagues Southward of Ocacock most of her money and cargo saved.
7. Navio "Nuestra Senora de los Godos" alias "Arinton" Captain Don Pedro de Pumarejo, (Pumarcho); and Don Francisco de Ortiz; Arrived at Norfolk.
8. "Mariana" ? "La Marianna," from Compeche, a sloop, Don Antonio Ianasio de Anaya, commander; Arrived at Norfolk.
I think I found two of them.
Tons more reaseach if you want it.
rikathi@bellsouth.net
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Aug 02, 2004, 05:09 PM
#2
Re: 1750 wrecks
which two do you think you have found ?
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Aug 04, 2004, 07:59 AM
#3
Re: 1750 wrecks
neither of these.lol.
Ben Benson I believed found the Galga with the help of Richard Cook and then it ws worked by Mike Maguire.
Litigation will soon tell the "rest of the story."
1. Frigate "Nuestra Senora del Carmen" alias "La Galga" alias "Greyhound":
Lost 15 Leagues Northward of Cape Charles with all it's cargo, everyone was saved except one soldier.
Owner : Don Pedro de Garaicoechia
Captain: Don Daniel Huoni
Master: Don Juan Joseph de Vega --
Technical data and dimensions:
50 guns --
Location:
...shipwrecked off Virginia. --
...The ship of war was cast away 15 Leagues to the North of Cape Charles. --
06.09.1750, Philadelphia:
The ship "La Galga" of 50 guns were in a Violent storm from the Northeast on the 18th and 19th of last month and 7 of her guns were thrown overboard.
On the 24th she struck on Chinkateague shoals where she lost her rudder beat over into five fathoms of water and came to anchor and on the 26th run ashore on Chinkateague Island. --
06.09.1750, Philadelphia:
Last Monday came advice that a Spanish man of war of 50 guns of Captain Mahony is cast away about 14 Leagues to the South of our cape and they run ashore on the 25th but got all the money out of her. --
The " Galga," as well as the "Nuestra Senora de Los Godos," has been placed at Currituck Sound in North Carolina by several modern - day writers, but the Colonial records and newspaper accounts are very clear in placing the "Galga" at the Virginia - Maryland line and the "Godos" in Norfolk. The fact the report says the first ship was "stove to pieces" has misled several researchers in placing a 1750 Spanish wreck at Currituck. The ship in question is the "Godos," and although she was in shattered condition she made her way to Norfolk in Virginia which becomes apparent through government and newspaper accounts. Early gazette reports up and down the east coast come close to the actual facts. --
Salvaged:
The English Ship "El Alcartan" of Captain Diego Wales coming from Norfolk in her the register of the frigate "La Galga" which was wrecked at the coast of Virginia. --
480 pesos fuertes
4,800 pesos in doubloons
218 castellanos, 7 tomines and 8 grains of goldware
30 marks of silverware
119 castellanos of gold in 3 small chests
2 pairs of hevillas and 1 of Inquisition emblems
5 marks, 6 ounces of silver in 7 little silver boxes
Ivaro de asta with a gilded foot
This ship wrecked at the coast of Virginia and this registry was brought in the English ship "El Alerton" --
Most of her money was saved. --
2. Amburguez Navio "Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe" alias "Auguste Celi" alias Nympha :
Lost Ocacock Inlet, North Carolina, all the people saved.
There can be no fiction written that can equal the plot, the comedy, or the intrigue of the saga of the "Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe." This ship indures the horrors of a hurricane only to become victim to her indecisive Captain and an unscrupleious Boatswain. She is a plum to be plucked by the infamous North
Carolina outerbankers as well as opportunistic Governor. --
Owner : Dona Angela de Prado
Commander : Don Juan Manuel de Bonilla --
Cargo of treasure:
1 chest of gold and other jewels of 24,000 pesos --
Locations:
Petition of Captain Don Juan Manuel de Bonilla:
On the 31.08. the ship was drove ashore on a place called Ocacock in North Carolina many miles from any inhabitants and that it is impossible to get her off, the place being encompassed with small islands and they were obliged to unload
the ship and put her cargo on shore. --
...the said vessel with great difficulties and distress got into Ocracock Inlet with
$ 300,000 cargo and others. --
The Governor sent Colonel Innes to investigate the circumstances at Ocracoke where she was lying in distress and her cargo of 1,000,000 pieces of 8. --
He sent the "Scorpion" to protect her from the bankers. --
Ocracoke is 80 miles from Newbern. --
The Governor gave order and the Captain of the sloop informed him by letter from the Ocracoke Bar that he has taken the Captain of the register ship with (50) chests of dollars. --
The unhappy men continued near 40 days in the harbor of Ocrakoke...
The English packet boat "El Scorpion" under Captain Rondall brought her from the "Rada" (? German: Reede = English: anchorage --axl) of Ocrecock in the said coast of Virginia where she reached in a storm and the said packet boat brought part of her cargo to Cadiz on 28.01.1751. --
Events:
Lat. 29 North
Violent gale, wind North Northeast, that evening changed to South Southeast, and blew extremely hard, then from most of the principal points.
Continued for six days and nights, on 17th and 18th could be deemed nothing less then a great hurricane in which the ships were separated.
That on the 20th, they made land about Hatteras, (having no observation) when the weather being a little less boisterous and the wind shifter to Southwest, they came to an anchor off the inlet, with two cables on end, but rode very hard all night, expecting every moment to be driven ashore:
That the weather being more moderate on the 21st, the "Nympha" rode it out, and (with great defile of trouble, care and charge) was at last got safe into Ocracoke harbor, (after having lost her rudder, mizzen mast, main and fore top mast, with all her falls, 60 Leagues at sea).
Salvaged:
The Spanish crew themselves were very mutinous and loaded 106 chests of money on two passing sloops. --
The sloop which got away has carried off all the rest of the valuable money...
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Aug 04, 2004, 09:34 AM
#4
Re: 1750 wrecks
There is some information regarding your search here:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/shipwreck/index12.htm
Good Luck!
Matt Mattson
http://www.treasuresites.com
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Aug 09, 2004, 07:33 AM
#5
Re: 1750 wrecks
Pretty scary trip, indeed!!!
4. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND COURSE OF EVENTS:
Spanish dates are 10 days later than English.
Letter from Pedro de Pumarejo on 15 Oct. 1750:
18.08.1750:
The fleet takes off from Havana (Gulfstream)--axl
25.08.1750,
1500 hours: Very strong North - wind (shorten
sails). After to windward (North) of commander and Don
Juan Manuel de Bonilla to meet with them. -- axl
2000 hours: Met with commander and Don Juan Manuel de
Bonilla. Wind South and Southwest. Now hurricane.
Then Southeast -- wind. -- axl
26.08.1750, 0300 hours: Trying not to fall leeward
(Northwest). Mast and tiller broke. Turning into laid-to
(Southeast) Set port anchor. -- axl
0400 hours: Steering OK. -- axl
27.08.1750: North - course and South Southwest - South
Southeast wind. -- axl
28.08.1750, 1100 hours: At windward a dismasted ship the
"Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe" ? course South Southwest.
Change course turning around with the wind by
Northeast to follow same course (South Southwest).
Considering close ashore and fleeing from it till end of
night. -- axl
2100 hours: New tiller broke seas were so strong;
29.08.1750, 0800 hours: hit by great sea
0930 hours: hit by another
30.08.1750 1230 hours: It was calm by
1400 hours: Storm hit us again from Southeast running
North Northwest and North Northeast 5 to
6 miles our stern to the sea to prolong our drift
and hit the shore with least force possible wind
and
sea so strong want to die;
31.08.1750 1200 hours: took sight of sun our lat. is 36
degrees 40 min. north we steered due West for land
01.09.1750 0900 hours: sighted land
1200 hours two Leagues from land Lat. 36 38 min.
Sept. 6 1750 report Capt. Dingy from Virginia:
informs that on the 19th (may be 29th) a violent storm hit and
a great many vessels were drove ashore
Sept. 13 1750 report from Captain Rivers from North Carolina:
Several dead bodies having been drove ashore.
25.09.1750:
Governor Gabriel Johnston assembles council in special session.
Member of council Colonel Innes sent to Ocracoke. He informs
the Governor of English plundering and attacks against
Spaniards. Governor orders H.M.S. "Scorpion" to Ocracoke. -- axl
1755:
Governor Arthur Dobbs uses survey from Daniel Denibibben -- ds
1806:
William Tatham made a survey and report and got information
from an 71 year old inhabitant from Cape Lookout named Samuel
Guttery. -- axl
Governor Gabriel Johnson immediately issued his order for
apprehending the said Bermuda master and crew and securing their
sloop. There appears however to be no record of whether this
sloop was actually captured and in fact it is not at all clear
whether the chests of money if taken came from the "El Salvador"
or from some other vessel. -- ho;p16
...during the years several heavy storms hit the coast and many
ships were lost in the Cape Lookout area... -- ho;p16-19
1761:
the worst hurricane recorded in the North Carolina history
changed the "hook" considerably. -- axl
The sloop "Sally" with Captain John Hunt cast away on
04.05.1772, 2 Leagues from land on the Cape Lookout shoals...,
...with much difficulty some people reached shore with the boat
after 15 hours... -- ho;p19
In 1778 Fort Hancock was built on Cape Lookout. -- ho;p20
Beaufort and the cape Lookout area was a place of shipbuilding,
fishing and whaling... -- ho;p22ff
In 1812 a lighthouse was erected at the tip of Cape Lookout. --
ho;p27
A violent storm hit the area in 1815 and changed the area
physiographical. -- ho;p28
Between 1837 and 1861 12 ships wrecked at Beaufort Inlet and
Cape Lookout. -- ho;p29
A large whaling community was settled at Shackleford Banks and
one mile West of the lighthouse on the Cape in an area called
lookout woods. -- ho;p30
In the 1850s Morehead City was developed as a port. -- ho;p32
During the civil war Fort Macon fell to the union forces under
considerable help by union naval vessels. The fort was
bombarded by the fleet. -- ho;p34
In the 1860s a fleet was staged in Beaufort of about 300
vessels. There were naval conflicts between union and
confederate vessels. Several were taken and at least one sunk
in the Lookout area. Another one chased ashore. -- ho;p35
In the 1880s a Cape Lookout station was built about 1. 5 miles
South West of the lighthouse. -- ho;p35
Several storms and the big hurricane in 1899 damaged the shores
of the area and Diamond City the whaling community on
Shackleford Banks was decided to be abandoned. --ho;p38
From the Captain of the life saving station at Cape Lookout:
Since 1888 19 schooners, 6 steamships, and 1 bark were disabled
or ashore at Cape Lookout. Unknown wrecks are sometimes
discovered on or near the shoals. -- ho;p45
In 1913 the construction of sand fences started to stabilize
the shoreline at Cape Lookout. -- ho;p46
1914 construction of a 2150 meters / 7050 feet long stone
breaker started, beginning from the tip of the bight in North
West. Only 1460 meters / 4800 feet were completed. -- ho;p46
In World War 1 and World War 2 Cape Lookout bight served as a
gathering place and staging area for convoys bound to Europe.
German submarines sank several ships outside in the vicinity of
Cape Lookout. -- ho;p47
697 ships sunk off the outer banks between 1526 and 1945. Duke
University Marine Laboratory.
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