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  1. #1
    us
    Oct 2009
    Jersey Cape
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    ID needed

    Hello, After this recent Nor'easter ,I found 2 of these nails washed up on a beach in Cape May ,NJ. Quick question ,are they from an old shipwreck ? They are bronze and about 10 " long ..3/4" square ."larger than picture". ..Thanks for your help, CMD
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    da book worm--researcher

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    callahan,fl
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    Re: ID needed

    very possible shipwreck related -- bronze nails amd spikes were commonly used in ship construction since iron would rust quickly in a saltwater enviroment

  3. #3
    pt
    Oct 2009
    Lisbon
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    Re: ID needed

    If it's bronze, its probably later than the 1780's.

  4. #4
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    Re: ID needed

    Bent nail construction was a common practice before advent and use of the
    screw fastener. although there are countless reasons why a nail can be bent
    in a shipwreck process - the bend could be a part of earlier vessel construction
    process. If you found a number of these and their bends are similar this can
    be the case.

    Bronze nails were preferred below the waterline in better built boats later in the 18th
    century as an earlier post suggested. if the bends are constant and start at about
    3.5 to 4 inches this may indicate hull planking.

    Other ways bent nail construction occurred was the nail was first heated and bent
    then driven or in the case of earlier iron forged spikes the holes were first augered
    then the spike was measured for length - then heated driven into the auger hole
    then peened over on the inside....
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  5. #5
    us
    Oct 2009
    Jersey Cape
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    Re: ID needed

    Thanks for the replies guys . Copper piece's 10x10 and smaller and a few ,not many ,English KG 1740,172?,1753 ,2-174 ? coin are washing up past few weeks. Capt. Dom , the other nail was the same bend as the picture. Would a hull plank be more than 14"-20" wide 2 & 3/4 ' thick ? Pieces of wood planks are also there . Thanks for your reply. CMD
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  6. #6
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
    Jupiter, Florida USA
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    Re: ID needed

    Sounds like hull planking. Sometimes they may be double planked.
    The copper looks like sheathing. It is ofter used along the gar board planks
    but could also be used along the entire bottom.

    Now come on! If you are actually finding coins and have been
    following this forum you should figure out how to send better
    photos of close ups of both sides of them

    They are your best indicator of a date range.....
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  7. #7
    gb
    Nov 2009
    38

    Re: ID needed


 

 

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