1500s Pirate Treasure?

aquanut

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aquanut

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Sorry, GOHO, I don't have any details. I'll see if I can find out where this wreck is located.
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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

I'm no expert but the little guys with the fan on their heads remind me of Incan stlye.

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Sphere

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Incan/Mayan gold. The first is almost undoubtedly a cannon. On the lower half of it you can see one of the support arms.
 

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Hey John,agree with cannon for pic#1.You can make out the trunions & see the barrel taper as well.Pic#2.Inca or Mayan possibly.Real or fake,thats the big question.Liked the other goodies in pic also.Take care,good huntin.Tom
 

cuzcosquirrel

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Might have a trunion on the bottom. Would be like a demi saker. Those look like Tairona tumbarga figures, on a display in a museum.
 

itmaiden

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The gold here is a nicer quality than what I have seen in Mayan museum displays. What I have seen is darker and less pure and not worked as well.

Nice Indian relic to the side there too !

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aquanut said:
I had a request to post these two pictures here to see if anyone can shed some light on what he might have here.
 

Alexandre

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

You also have a polished stone ax, as well as an obsidian blade. It looks like someone took a photograph of a museum shell.

The iron cannon looks it's an early 18th century gun, by the bulky looks of it,
 

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Cannon looks short... broken maybe? Can't tell. Middle figure looks like enhanced surface tumbaga, Quimbaya culture(north of Tolima and west of Colima/Musica). What's supposedly the connection?
 

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

The object just left of the trunion and on the top side of the cannon resembles (to these eyes) a powder chamber for a breech loader. The hollowed-out chamber area is evident; the handle for the chamber is less obvious.
Can you provide the scale of these objects?
 

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

a powerful, short-range anti-ship and anti-crew weapon, encrusted with incrustations :laughing7: :laughing7: :hello:
 

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cannon short one deck gun hand operated on a pivot like a rail gun i am a cannoner i do confederate artillery land and river re enactments
 

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aquanut

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Thanks for all the responses. I received these pictures by e-mail from somebody I don't know, but apparently knows me. I emailed some questions to him but as yet haven't received a reply.
Aquanut
 

old man

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Re: 1500's Pirate Treasure?

Alexandre said:
You also have a polished stone ax, as well as an obsidian blade. It looks like someone took a photograph of a museum shell.

The iron cannon looks it's an early 18th century gun, by the bulky looks of it,

Alexandre, from your post it appears that you are a very astute observer. I do see a few minor problems with the photograph being taken in a museum. First of all, the gold figures wouldn't be grouped with other Indian Artifacts. I also know that if the figures were in a museum, that they would be fully in cased in a clear box, with an alarm system attached. There is no way that they would be in the open where you could pick them up. I would think that they are now in the Private hands of a collector of fine Indian Artifacts,

I think from John's post, the person that sent him the pictures wants to know if anyone as any idea of when the wreck might have sunk and what type of ship might have been carrying those artifacts. I can unequivocally and without mental reservation say that the gold artifacts are not in a museum and are in fact Pure Gold.
 

cuzcosquirrel

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You can sometimes score statues like that off of ebay for a couple hundred bucks. Tumbaga is an alloy with some gold in it, but mostly copper. The surface is treated a couple of ways to bring out a thin smooth layer of rich looking gold.
 

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