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Jun 21, 2010, 03:58 PM
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Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
I was curious if anyone has ever found any spanish coins on the South Padre islands in Texas left by the 1554 shipwrecks? If so let me know your story...
Thanks everyone, Kevin
Kevin C Ciesielski
TXDetectors.org
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Jun 21, 2010, 10:34 PM
#2
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
Maybe try hooking up with the guy on this posting about the same topic. Just an idea. 
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=90044.0
Good luck .
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Jun 21, 2010, 10:36 PM
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 da book worm--researcher
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
find stuff in texas at padre island --the state will want it --- ssssshhhh
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Jun 22, 2010, 05:23 AM
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 Pirate of the Martires
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
I know someone that found coins on Padre Is. but he doesn't want to talk about it.
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Jun 22, 2010, 07:32 AM
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 Sir Dives-A-Lot
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
The area where the known 1554 wrecks sank is from the Mansfield cut to about 5-7 miles north. That area is a national seashore, and metal detecting is not allowed. A few coins have been brought up south of the cut too though....rent a dune buggy or quad-runner, it is many miles from any roads...neat place to camp though. Short of a few shark fishermen along the way, you are unlikely to see another soul out there, so take everything you need. If you have access to a small boat or jet ski, you can tie up in shallow water on the inland side of the island also. Obviously the best time to go is after some really rough seas have pounded the beaches for a few days.
Oddly enough, there is an old map of Padre Island in some of the nicer t-shirt shops that pretty accurately lists where coins have been found in the past. I'll see if I can find some pictures of the one I saw. It wasn't hard to line the contour up with Google Earth and find promising areas to hunt. I recommend the trip to anyone, neat experience being on an isolated and unimproved/inhabited beach for a few days. Makes you think what it must have felt like to be a shipwreck survivor. I found some old indian pottery and artifacts out there a few miles south of the cut, as well as some shipwreck items that will remain nameless.
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Jun 22, 2010, 02:32 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
hi my good friend scuba finder: Sigh, to think that in the early 1950's I was in the Border Patrol based in Kingsville Texas. Part of our beat was the islands, I had free access to them with no questions asked. Except for a few fishermen, the beaches were deserted.
Unfortunately detecting and metal detectors were relatively unknown then. Also no detectors could work on the salt beaches with the exception of the Gardner, which ran just about $ 1000 Us then.
To think of all of the wonderful opportunities that were lost to detect, and err, meet, lovely delectable females. sigh.
Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to live, not live to exist"
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Jun 24, 2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
Yeah i know the Texas Antiquities Committee has really taken over the whole thing, and if anyone does find something I would keep it hush hush myself so they don't snatch it from us; its understandable! There was just so many coins and a few artifacts not recovered yet that they have to be somewhere. Also, there has to be some loophole in the laws that govern the whole site, but after reading the laws following the discovery of the wreck I wonder if it is possible? Texas is taking big steps to preserve the archaeology of the site, which is a good thing, but bad for treasure hunters like us.
Thanks ya'll for the feedback!!!
Kevin
Kevin C Ciesielski
TXDetectors.org
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Jun 24, 2010, 05:53 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
Does anybody know who owned the three ships that wrecked in 1554?
Mariner
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Jun 24, 2010, 07:51 PM
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 Pirate of the Martires
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
They were owned by Spain.
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Jun 24, 2010, 08:18 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
Thanks, Pete.
From what I have read, one of the ships, the Santa Maria, was privately owned, albeit probably under contract to Spain for the voyage. However, this ship was appaarently destroyed when some dredging took place.
I was just entertaining the idea that if any of the ships was privately owned, then the current legal successor to the owner might have a legitimate claim, but it doesn't sound as if its specific artifacts (if any) could be identified.
Mariner
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Jun 25, 2010, 01:42 AM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
The entire Spanish galleon was sailed under "New Spain" - Most of the precious cargo belonged to individuals aboard and others transporting their goods but not on board to Havanna, Vera Cruz, and the Northern cities of what is now Brazil. There were around 30 cannons give or take 4-5 on the 3 ships.
Some of the artifacts that the T.A.C. salvaged will eventually be handed over to Spain if they have not already done so.
Since the Santa Maria wreck was the farthest South and hardly ANY of the silver bullion was recovered by the TAC (due to the dredging) - and the Spanish salvage (july-sept 1554) which recovered about 41% of Santa Maria de Yciar's bullion.
So, there has to be a bunch of that stuff either laying at the mouth of the mansfield cut or all over the beaches there.
If you're interested in this wreck I would recommend The TAC publications on the wrecks! 
-Kevin-
Kevin C Ciesielski
TXDetectors.org
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Jun 25, 2010, 09:05 AM
#12
 Sir Dives-A-Lot
Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
Let us not forget the salvage of Mr. Billy Kennon...they salvaged all 3 of the wrecks for several years...and in turn started the battle that caused Texas to close the doors on treasure hunting. Mr. Kennon won the court battle, but was only re-paid the bullion value (at the time of recovery) of the salvaged cargo. Mr. Kennon did some great archeaological documentation and excellent conservation on all of the artifacts...the state now takes credit for it in the form of a book, but I know who did the original work. I worked for Mr. Kennon for 2 years in Port Isabel, TX, great guy.
Jason
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Jun 25, 2010, 10:54 AM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
old book but interesting. Padre Island Treasure Kingdom of the World Willioan Mahan published back in 1967 by Texan Press
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Jun 28, 2010, 02:13 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
 Originally Posted by gus
old book but interesting. Padre Island Treasure Kingdom of the World Willioan Mahan published back in 1967 by Texan Press
Bill Mahan was a patient of my father and sold me my first metal detector, a D-Tex, if I recall. I believe he was a pioneer inventor of the modern metal detector. In his house, and this is back in the 60's, he had jars full of cobs that he found on South Padre. I don't know if he found all of them north of the Mansfield Cut, but I believe he found some on the south side. He told me to look in the dunes, not on the flat part of the beach. Obviously, if you were to go, go as far up north towards the cut as you can. BTW, a hurricane may be due there this week and that may churn it up and expose something. Heed the advice to take everything with you, especially water. A four wheel ATV would be ideal, but you are going to be going along the beach for 20 or more miles and a regular vehicle will get stuck in the soft sand, although I read somewhere that if you deflate your tires to 13 -15 psi, and go 20 mph, you can make it. Watch for rattlers in the dunes. Resist the temptation to cross over to the north side of the Mansfield Cut; the authorities are relentless.
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Dec 21, 2010, 12:53 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
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Dec 21, 2010, 04:33 PM
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Re: Has anyone ever found a spanish coins on South Padre Island, TX
I read a story about how some guys were successful in eluding the law while detecting all over the "Off Limit" parts of Padre . The speaker on your machine gives off different amounts of sound relative to the power of the signal . They then changed the power to lights . A small row of LED lights mounted on a board that was clipped to the visors of their ball caps . The stronger the signal the more lights that would light ( 1-10 as I remember). Kinda like some stereo speakers that light relative to the music . Couple this logic with hunting at night and it seemed to work . They could get signals AND hear the "dreaded Broncos" as they came around giving them time to duck down and hide in the dunes . Dunno if it's true BUT it sounds good .
TOM
ROUGH ASHLAR DAYLIGHT LODGE #79 F&AM
NRA
LDMA
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