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Jan 17, 2011, 11:55 AM
#1
Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!
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Jan 18, 2011, 03:24 AM
#2
 I like finding stuff
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
I'm surprised the various 'private security forces' out there- XE, Aegis, etc- haven't gotten into the business of outfitting escort vessels with all manner of nasties that go boom and providing security services to shipping interests in that part of the world...
They would definitely be making their own market. In time, after blowing up enough Somali pirates, the only ships that would be attacked would be those left unescorted, thus forcing everyone buy the protection and most likely, eliminating all but the most organized, well funded piracy. Seeing as most "Somali Piracy" appears to be made up of rag-tag bands of shitheads with small arms like in the picture above, there probably wouldn't be much to deal with. Seems like a potentially huge and untapped market.
"There comes a time in every rightly-constructed boy's life when he has a raging desire to go somewhere and dig for hidden treasure..." - Twain
"Opportunity is like ice. As you're thinking about it, it's disappearing." - Unknown
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Jan 18, 2011, 11:49 AM
#3
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
The Russians seem to be the only ones that have figured out how to deal with this scum.
Catch & Release is for fish.
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Jan 18, 2011, 12:00 PM
#4
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
 Originally Posted by Saturna
The Russians seem to be the only ones that have figured out how to deal with this scum.
Catch & Release is for fish.
Agreed.
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Jan 20, 2011, 10:29 AM
#5
 da book worm--researcher
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
heck time fer "armed" nerchant ships again -- only the fact that the merchant ships are are "unarmed" makes them easy targets -- you give us merchamt mariners a "fighting chance" and then you will see what what happens to pirate scum.
we had to repel boarders twice during my 27 year long sea going time as a merchant seaman (1980 to 2007) with nothing more than just fire hoses to prevent them from getting onboard *-- we did stop emboth times but it was quite risky , due to being un armed -- had we had any firearms /(say several AK 47's or M-14's) to defend ourselves --it would have been quite a easy task to drive them off.
most of the merchant marines in the SIU union since we work a lot on "contracted" military supply vessels * that could go into "war zones as "supply vessels" --take govt "training" --of a military type style --like damage control , advanced fire fighting , first aid and of course "small arms training" * as well == pistol , shotgun and rifle * ( to prevent enemy boarders" from coming on board )-- many of us already know hoow to shoot quite well because we are ex military types or avid hunters --
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Jan 20, 2011, 11:08 AM
#6
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
As much as I am in favour of arming merchant men to a certain extent for defensive purposes and also in favour of prosecuting pirates captured on the high seas (I have a close friend in the Royal Canadian Navy and have heard all the stories) there is another side of the story that is so easily forgotten.
This is just the tip of the iceburg but it would be prudent to share this info in regards to this discussion:
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...892376,00.html
and
http://www.jordoncooper.com/2009/04/...ecame-pirates/
and countless other articles.
Just FYI.
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Jan 20, 2011, 12:04 PM
#7
 da book worm--researcher
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
then why are the pirates not targeting foreign fishing vessels to be over taken to "upgrade" their own fishing fleet
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Jan 20, 2011, 02:59 PM
#8
 I like finding stuff
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
 Originally Posted by CanadianTrout
I don't think those are honest presentations.
As we've seen over and over and over again since the beginning of time, when law and order breaks down, thugs and violent people rise up to run the show. They engage in all sorts of predatory behaviors and continue to do so until law and order is restored, inevitably over the barrel of a gun.
Trying to sell the Somali Pirates as 'rag-tag environmentalists' out to stop European pollution or presenting them as people trying to protect their 'fishing interests' is, most likely, a completely dishonest characterization of what's really going on over there. Commandeering a foreign craft and demanding ransom isn't protecting your national sovereignty. It's ordinary piracy that's been happening since men took to the seas.
Whenever it comes to native Africans of the criminal variety preying on European interests, there's a group of apologists- usually, heavily bent to the left- who always try and define the issue just like this. If you study what happened in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe prior to the ANC communists taking over (and ultimately, totally destroying that country), the apologetics coming from the leftist enablers was much the same.
"There comes a time in every rightly-constructed boy's life when he has a raging desire to go somewhere and dig for hidden treasure..." - Twain
"Opportunity is like ice. As you're thinking about it, it's disappearing." - Unknown
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Jan 20, 2011, 05:42 PM
#9
Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
www.time.com says it all. Objective journalism (in print media) is basically dead. The African and Phillipian pirates are in it for the ransom money - period. That money has been proven to fund radical Islamist terrorist groups and ruthless warlords.
International gun control laws make it difficult to carry an arsenal on many of these ships. My surprise is at the lack of insistence by the insurers that these vessels are secure. 
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Jan 25, 2011, 01:02 PM
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Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
Guys, believe me, I am no "leftist" nor am i trying to further any agenda. As you can see I was the first one to agree with Saturna's post about how the Russians deal with these guys and that 'catch and release is for fish" (good line BTW)
I just threw that out there as additional info and "the other side of the story".
Am I to understand this http://www.twf.org/News/Y2009/0411-Pirates.html is not an issue? As far as how accurate exactly or how widespread I of course ca not say myself with 100% surety. I am not in any business related to this, I have never been to Somalia, nor did I personally dump and chemicals. Google "illegal dumping in Somali waters" and there is a plethora of information and articles on this subject from a WIDE variety of sources.
Just sayin'....
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Jan 25, 2011, 06:51 PM
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Re: MV Samho Jewelry Pirated in Indian Ocean
It's all good The free flow of info is the only way we arrive at the truth. And we all know the truth shall set you free!
Ship was rescued by South Korean Commandos. All 23 crew safe! Several bad guys killed.
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