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  1. #1
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    Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Today we were out doing a video shoot for Fortress Anchors
    one of our sponsors. We had to get a few shots of scantily clad
    pretty young things heaving and hauling in Fortress Aluminum Anchors

    {rough duty}

    We decided to drop the gear and test their holding power, {there was a pretty good swell going on}

    Take a look at what we {Actually Bart Hetfield} found!

    I will post some more photos as they download

    This thing was pretty heavy and we hope fellow T-net shipwreck specialists may help
    us identify it

    Thanks Bart.




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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  2. #2
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Here is a shot of the Amazon Crew

    and a few more of the E.O. after we took out specialized aracaologi
    tools to it so that one may better identify its use on board a vessel.

    Now Bart's new nickname is going to be "black bart" when he tries and clean his hands!
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Capt Dom, I saw you anchored and blowing out there on the webcam. That looks like a big ring, 2 links of chain and a big pin. I would assume from a boat. Oh, nice looking crew too!

  4. #4
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    Nov 2006
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Hi

    Arh me crew ain't too shabby!

    I think you may be on the right track....
    It may well be from a boat!
    Lets hope it wasn't from a space craft!

    The esteemed Reverend Bouchless was looking for one out here once and the
    state actually gave him a permit to do so.
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    I mean a regular boat, but it could be from a barge, or something on a barge like a dragline, or something like that. Obviously something heavy duty!

  6. #6
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Hi Steve,

    Pardon my old fart sense of humor.

    Upon closer examination one can see that it really isn't chain.
    The big ring is actually shaped like a and eight. There most definitely is
    a deck or through hull fitting with an ornate "bullet" type cap end.
    This was probably fashions so a line would not get caught on it.

    There is a smaller "eight type fitting on the above pin but it was crudely forged with an angel so it could swivel
    around the pin. There is one bigger closed ended like one flexible link connecting the larger "8 shaped ring
    to the swivel. The larger ring may have had a wooden block or dead eye that rotted away.

    The metal is very grainy. And the aracaologi "smell test is of high deteriorating sulpher content.
    There was a heavily grained ship's spike also in the E.O.

    but SHUCKS,.... no gold or silver coins = like in the past!



    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Possibly a deck block and tackle ?

    here's a modern one http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-3261...nd-tackle.html

    slightly older one

    http://www.canstockphoto.com/old-woo...k-5801440.html
    Psalm 107:23-24
    They that go down into the sea in ships; and make working in many waters.
    They saw the works of the Lord; and his marvels in the depth. (And they saw the works of the Lord; and his marvelous deeds in the depths of the sea.)

  8. #8
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    I don't see what you guys are looking at - my eyes keep wandering to your crew
    "There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)

  9. #9
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Au... Dreamers

    I think you got it!
    It also may be a block used on
    a yard lifting boom.

    This morning I went at it with some more of me arkeolgkeal impliemts
    so here are some cleaner photos.

    She certainly is old but may be not real old...
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  10. #10
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Sorry to distract you Cubfan.....
    but look at the end of the lifting boom
    on this old barge just happened to be named
    "The Salvor"

    Does red make a good color for diving uniforms
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    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  11. #11
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Red is OUTSTANDING for a diving uniform, but it depends completely on what's wearing the uniform

    It looks like you're on target for your find. One of these days I'd like to get down your way and see what REAL treasure hunting for pirate treasure is all about.
    "There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)

  12. #12
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Its just a matter for us Scoundrels {that what K.C. Smith defines treasure hunters as} to respect arkaologial principls
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Sure looks like the anchor hanger for the Salvor. Good eye!

  14. #14
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Here is some video of Bart cleaning off the E.O.


    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  15. #15
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

    Nov 2006
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    UP DATE: !!

    We posted a fun video of Bart cleaning the E.O.

    and we just got this reply:

    Jim Anderson

    The piece I see is the same? 55min into Voyages "The Search for the Atocha" 2004. Shows a panning of the conservatory, and there in the back ground it is identical.

    Good Luck

    Now I thought this was from the barge "Salvor" that worked on the excavation
    of Jupiter Inlet in 1921!

    Shows you how much I know!

    Cornelius - is right! "It is the story that counts"

    and it is better that we share information....
    this is how people learn !
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Dom,

    What you have there is a deadeye off of a galleon.Yours is missing the lignam vitae wood that goes inside the iron ring.The iron spike is what holds it to the side of the ship.If i can find my history of deadeyes book,i can date that deadeye.The pic is what the wood that is missing should look like.
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    Millions of dollars of Spanish treasure await those who would dare brave the eye of the hurricane.

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    I found the book.What you have is a lower deadeye.lower deadeyes arecommonly strapped directly to iron chain plates fastened to the hull. A iron rod is usually doubled around the grooves of the deadeye and bolted or riveted to the chain plate.With this iron strap the deadeye is said to be ironbound.This has been common practice for many centuries but previously vessels were hempbound.Chain plate design varied considerably threw the ages due to evolving hull shapes and new materials.

    A 8 inch or larger deadeye would have been on a square rigger ship.
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  18. #18
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Dom, I already forwarded you an email from Jim Sinclair about the dead eye/chain plate assembly. Jim said that Greg Bounds found an even larger one on the 1715 fleet last year. I have no doubts the artifact is from your shipwreck. That area may be a good place for us to do some digging. Nice video.

    Tom

  19. #19
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    Want to treasure dive in gin clear waters at Jupiter!

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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    This is what T-Net should be all about.

    Sharing information so we all can learn. Thank you all for your
    input. One thing for sure - except for Pawel Nowak - I welcome
    any and all comments and information.

    In the past I had found a piece of standing rigging that turned out to be
    a fixed chain plate fastener. This is different in that it is made to swivel
    and will have carried a much larger block.

    Tom, you will be with us when we go right to the spot!
    Since 1987 our Jupiter Wreck has continued to yield coins but the question, "Where's the rest of the Ship?" has remained unanswered...  There are 2 layers of shipwreck scatter and we are equipping the "Enterprise" to excavate the primary treasure layer.  Join with us this year!

  20. #20
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    Re: Amazon Crew of the Tank Find a Large E.O. at the Jupiter Site!

    Hey Dom, its really puzzling that the REAL professional archaeologists do not help contribute to the identification of these objects. I tell you, FISHEYE should have a PhD just from his personal experience! Where are they (the professional archies) when it comes to sharing information?

 

 
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