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Jul 21, 2011, 11:10 AM
#1
Olive? jars
Found five of these jars on a spot after a storm, also several cannon. Anybody know the origin by the shape? Spanish,English? Capt. Bill
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Jul 21, 2011, 12:34 PM
#2
Re: Olive? jars
Great Find! I am sure that some answers will be headed your way real soon. Any other artifacts found in vicinity?
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Jul 21, 2011, 01:02 PM
#3
Re: Olive? jars
I'd say with 95% probablility that they are Spanish olive jars. There are many on display here in museums dating from the mid-1500's to the late 1700's with little change in the overall design. If I recall correctly, they were rounded on the bottom so that they had to be shipped on their sides to keep the cork and wax stoppers from drying out. I believe at least one of the displayed jars here contained figs. If not Spanish, I would say that Portuguese would be the next strong contender.
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Jul 21, 2011, 01:11 PM
#4
Re: Olive? jars
Those are of the "middle style" (1580-1780) type Spanish olive jars. That particular jar style was called "Botija Perulera."
Anything inside them?
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Jul 21, 2011, 01:30 PM
#5
 Tuberale
Re: Olive? jars
Also known as "olla" or olive oil jars. Olive oil was a staple of early trade, and continues through today. Also a diet staple at the time (16th-18th centuries) as well as earlier.
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Jul 21, 2011, 03:01 PM
#6
Re: Olive? jars
Since you have 5 think I could have one? haha JK Great find and congrats!!
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Jul 21, 2011, 06:01 PM
#7
Re: Olive? jars
Try this book:
MARKEN, Mitchel (1994) "Pottery from Spanish Shipwrecks, 1500 – 1800". Miami: University Press of Florida.
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Jul 22, 2011, 04:20 AM
#8
Re: Olive? jars
My thoughts, I would lean towards Mexico as to where they may have been produced, circa pre-1700.
Common trade goods...to many Countries that sailed into Vera Cruz during the "trade years"
My guess.
Very nice, so you have 5? That is odd, would you care to have 4? Jus asking.
Trez
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Jul 22, 2011, 06:51 AM
#9
Re: Olive? jars
Those are really impressive.
Are there any post-saltwater treatments or restorative processes that need to occur now that they are out of the water?
There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Jul 22, 2011, 07:52 AM
#10
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Jul 22, 2011, 11:14 AM
#11
Re: Olive? jars
100% Spanish jars.....actually the kings of Spain at that time, both Philip iii and Philip iv owned the 'patent' to them and that 'pinkish' color glaze that they used. They also traded them all over the world so..i.e. made by the Spanish [ they produced them in many locations includung Mexico] but could be a shipwreck from another nation who purchased them. So the wreck may not be Spanish. Very nice condition ! Great find!
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Jul 22, 2011, 11:17 AM
#12
 ScubaGecko
Re: Olive? jars
Bill, got any picts of the cannon? Bronze? Iron? Was there any ballast stone in the area?
Robert
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Jul 22, 2011, 08:25 PM
#13
Re: Olive? jars
THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! Could you post some more pics of the others & maybe the cannon PLEASE!
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Jul 22, 2011, 11:23 PM
#14
 Sir Dives-A-Lot
Re: Olive? jars
Great find! Man do I miss diving in Belize. My friend Tulu and I have spent many hours underwater together off Turneffe, and a little known area near Cay Caulker that was most interesting. ;-) I'd do some digging around there for sure, congrats and keep it up!
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