Possible armada wreck found off Ireland

[Smithbrown]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16032885.html

[diverdan]

That is a soverign Spanish warship that was not on a commercial mission. How can Ireland touch it without Spain's permission?

[Darren in NC]

Evidence uncovered during a dive survey revealed the vessel was likely to be a 16th-century ship...

Once again, we wonder who actually found it. Nonetheless, it's an incredible find. An intact Armada ship will tell us a fascinating story. I hope we read more about this great wreck.

[mariner]

diverdan,

They haven't actually identified the wreck yet. If they do find that it is that of one of the Armada ships, I am sure that Spain will be fully involved in discussions about its future. Spain doesn't automatically exclude the possibility of its sovereign ships being archaeologically examined and recovered, it just claims title to such wrecks and reserves the right not to give permission for them to be salvaged.

If it is an Armada wreck, then I am sure Spain will be as keen as anybody to have the wreck properly examined and documented, at the very least.

My mother's family, the O'Dowds, are from Sligo, which is close to Donegal, and there are several Armada wrecks along that part of the coast. Most of the survivors who made it to shore were killed and robbed by the locals, but a few were taken into the communities and gave rise to what are known as the Black Irish. My mother always believed that she was one of them, but birth and death records from that time are pretty sparse in the remote parts of Ireland.

What a great find and a great adventure this is. Thanks for posting the information, Darren.

Mariner

[Alexandre]

Dont' forget that about one third of the Armada ships were Portuguese....

[Smithbrown]

A brief update with a picture in this one.
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...d-2841517.html

[Digger54]

A brief update with a picture in this one.
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...d-2841517.html

"At least 24 Spanish warships sank off the west coast in September 1588 when they were caught in violent storms. They were wrecked in locations between Antrim and Kerry as they attempted to make their way back home following defeat to a British fleet in the English Channel."

Wow, talk about the phrase, if it wasn't for bad luck they had no luck at all.

[MORE AND BEYOND OSSY]

diverdan,

They haven't actually identified the wreck yet. If they do find that it is that of one of the Armada ships, I am sure that Spain will be fully involved in discussions about its future. Spain doesn't automatically exclude the possibility of its sovereign ships being archaeologically examined and recovered, it just claims title to such wrecks and reserves the right not to give permission for them to be salvaged.

If it is an Armada wreck, then I am sure Spain will be as keen as anybody to have the wreck properly examined and documented, at the very least.

My mother's family, the O'Dowds, are from Sligo, which is close to Donegal, and there are several Armada wrecks along that part of the coast. Most of the survivors who made it to shore were killed and robbed by the locals, but a few were taken into the communities and gave rise to what are known as the Black Irish. My mother always believed that she was one of them, but birth and death records from that time are pretty sparse in the remote parts of Ireland.

What a great find and a great adventure this is. Thanks for posting the information, Darren.

Mariner
Very Interesting Mariner, To be sure to be sure. Great find for History.
How's your book on Drake going? On the two ships lost in the battle that had crashed into each other. Drake boarded one and found that canons had been tied together for a one off use.
Ossy