Nuestra senora de Bueno Esperanza

[cornelis 816]

Who has some more information about this Spanish treasure galleon . She was supposed to be wrecked 10 to 12 miles North of Memory Rock . 32 cannon and 63 survivors . Lots of coins on board . Cornelius

[signumops]

From Claudio's book... you have a copy.

ID: 1234 WATERS: PORTUGAL IO: Outbound
YEAR: 1633 VESSEL: S. Antonio y Buena Esperanza
LOCATION: Santa María island FIX:

CITATION: AGI: Consulados, legajo 466

REMARKS:


ID: 1164 WATERS: PORTUGAL IO: Outbound
YEAR: 1587 VESSEL: N.S. de la Esperanza
LOCATION: On Portimao coast FIX:

CITATION: AGI: Consulados, legajo 524

REMARKS:


ID: 581 WATERS: SPAIN IO:
YEAR: 1581 VESSEL: La Esperanza
LOCATION: Rota FIX:

CITATION: AGI: Contratación 5106-A

REMARKS:


ID: 668 WATERS: SPAIN IO:
YEAR: 1596 VESSEL: La Esperanza
LOCATION: Cape Finisterre FIX:

CITATION: AGI: Filipinas 37

REMARKS:

[cornelis 816]

Thanks for your remarks about some of the ships with the same name . The date of wrecking of the galleon , close to Memory Rock , is 1669 . The captain was Domingo Ypenarreita . I don't know if there is anything more known about this galleon , but than , one never can be sure . Cornelius

[Mackaydon]

Cornelis,

A ship with that name is mentioned in "Chronicles of Shipwrecks and Sunken Treasure 900-1900" available from sevenseaspublishing.com --as noted in the first entry here:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ted.google.com


I have no idea if it's the same vessel you are referring to.
Don....

[cornelis 816]

Thanks Don . I don't have that book and the listings . Do you think that there might be somebody out there that is willing to help me . There must be somebody that has these listings and the comments on the wreck . Cornelius

[Mackaydon]

Cornelis:

You may wish to contact the author directly. (Note: This information may not be current)

Alan R. Riebe

infor@sevenseaspublishing.com

PO Box 301

Beaufort , North Carolina United States 28516

252-723-1347

[cornelis 816]

Will do that Don . Thanks . Cornelius

[Darren in NC]

Lee Spence used to be Alan's partner. Perhaps he can shed some light on contacting him or getting the info from the book. I tried getting in touch with Alan years ago to no avail. It's like he's disappeared. You can find Lee at...

http://www.shipwrecks.com/sevenseaspublishing.htm

Just go to the home page to get in touch with Lee.

[Chagy]

There was indeed a hurricane in Bahamas in 1669, source: Pioneers of the old South: a chronicle of English colonial beginnings By Mary Johnston page 205…..In 1669 The Port Royal was wrecked in the Bahama Islands. ...

The correct name of your Captain is Domingo de Ypeñarrieta he was “Maestre de la Plata” from 1630 to 1653

I wonder if your year 1669 is correct?

all the best,

Chagy.....

[cornelis 816]

Chagy could my ship be 10 to12 miles North of Memory Rock . ? Cornelius

[stevemc]

Yes, there is shallow water 10-12 miles North of Memory Rock light. Shallow enough to wreck a ship from that era. I like to enter the Bahamas in that area, it is not as shallow as between Sandy Cay and West End. About 4 miles North of Sandy Cay it starts getting deeper on the edge,( I went over it last week in that area) and then Memory Rock is about 4-5 miles North of that area, and it is 10-12' deep all the way till you hit the corner of Little Bahama Bank, then it curves to the East and gets shallow again. The area from North of Sandy Cay to the Corner is a gradual rise, it is real deep right off it. The area to the South has a fast rise, and it gets less than 4' at low tide.There are several wrecks in that area. Those boats drew 15' when loaded, so they could have easily hit there. The medium sized frieghters that take goods to the Abacos go over North of Memory Rock. The big ones have to go on the outside, and way to the East. The Bank itself is shallow.

[cornelis 816]

Thanks Steve . I think this sounds good enough to investigate some more . Cornelius

[Trembull]

Who has some more information about this Spanish treasure galleon . She was supposed to be wrecked 10 to 12 miles North of Memory Rock . 32 cannon and 63 survivors . Lots of coins on board . Cornelius

Cornelius
Not the Galleon you are questioning, But still interesting to watch all 5 videos Video 1.2 at one minute in, states Memory Rock











Daryl

[cornelis 816]

Nice material Daryl . Thanks for your participation . Cornelius

[stevemc]

The problem with locating a shipwreck in that area, besides the Bahamian Government, which is always looking for poachers on the Maravillias which is in this general area, is that is a very gradual rise from 45' up to 10' is several miles, where the area South of Sandy Cay that happens in about 100'-200'. When I go through that area, there is always Bahamian commercial fishermen with their 15' boats and a hookah running, looking for conchs and lobsters. They are out of Grand Cay and West End. I also see the Bahamian Defense boat out there occasionally too. Like I said there are several wrecks in that area. Some old, and some not that old.