A silver bar found in Cadiz bay

[Vox veritas]

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[piratediver]

Interesting story Claudio, here is one you don't see everyday:


Nantucket boat missing since 2008 found drifting off Spain


Photo courtesy of Massachusetts Environmental Police

This Nantucket fishing boat was lost off Smith's Point in August 2008 and was just discovered drifting off the north shore of Spain.





I&M Senior Writer

(Jan. 25, 2012 ) Scott Douglas and Rich St. Pierre vividly remember the wave that threw them from their powerboat off the western shores of Nantucket in August 2008, and the sight of the vessel floating away into the open ocean.


The men survived the ordeal and managed to swim to Esther’s Island where they were rescued by Nantucket marine authorities, but their boat, the Queen Bee, wasn’t seen again. Until now.


Google Maps

The red dot on this map indicates the location of Llanes, Spain, where the missing boat was towed to shore.



More than three years after the harrowing incident, the 26-foot Regulator boat was found across the Atlantic Ocean, drifting off the northern coast of Spain over 3,500 miles from Nantucket.


"We heard this huge roar and looked immediately to our left and there was a huge wave that was cresting and breaking above the top of the boat," said St. Pierre, who was at the helm when the wave struck. "The next thing I knew we were both in the water and the boat was taking off away from us."


Heavily damaged and covered in barnacles, the boat was discovered on Jan. 17 roughly 20 miles off the small port town of Llanes by the Spanish Coast Guard. Towed to shore, the boat still had “Nantucket” scrawled on the side and its two outboard motors remained attached. Using the registration number, the U.S. Coast Guard and the Massachusetts Environmental Police were able to confirm it was indeed the same one that was lost by the two men southwest of Smith’s Point on the Bonita Bar at dusk on Aug. 25, 2008.

“I had definitely given up,” said Douglas, 58, when asked if he thought he would ever see the Queen Bee again. “I missed the boat, but we were so happy we lived to talk about it, and if it had to be sacrificed, that was fine.”


St. Pierre, who still owns his home on Nantucket, said he was shocked when he heard the Coast Guard had called to inform him and Douglas that the boat had been found 1,241 days after the incident.


“You wouldn’t think it would ever happen,” said St. Pierre. “The question everyone asks you is, ‘what happened to the boat?’ It’s just such a weird feeling. It’s got a good ending and it’s nice to have some closure to it. I’d love to know what happened to it over those three-and-a-half years.”
The U.S. Coast Guard suspects the Queen Bee drifted away from Nantucket into the Gulf Stream and then north into the North Atlantic current, according to Art Allen, of the Coast Guard’s Office of Search and Rescue.


Spanish media reports indicated that the vessel also still contained a first-aid kit, fire extinguishers, a radio and maps of the U.S. East Coast.

 

[VOC]

Cadiz is full of wrecks being destroyed by a government that at the same time gets upset at the Mercedes ( funny old world ! )

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Why-Cadiz-Must-be-Saved.pdf

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp.../01/DIVERS-TRY-TO-SAVE-TREASURES-OF-CADIZ.pdf

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/UNESCO-COURIER-RFM-ARTICLE-1984.pdf

 

[mad4wrecks]

In response to the previous article that piratediver posted......I thought it was interesting that this article on MSNBC stated the vessel now belongs to Spain (see below in bold)

So this vessel, lost for just 3 years, in which the owner is positively identified, loses possession because it washed up on Spanish shores. But a Spanish vessel, lost 350 years ago on American shores, where the identiity of both ship and owner are unknown, still belongs to Spain?

By Becky Bratu, msnbc.com

The Spanish Coast Guard alerted their U.S. counterpart Tuesday. Based on salvage law, the boat now belongs to Spain.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ars-after-us-accident-boat-washes-up-in-spain

Tom

 

[Alexandre]

Cadiz is full of wrecks being destroyed by a government that at the same time gets upset at the Mercedes ( funny old world ! )

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Why-Cadiz-Must-be-Saved.pdf

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp.../01/DIVERS-TRY-TO-SAVE-TREASURES-OF-CADIZ.pdf

http://www.ssssllc.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/UNESCO-COURIER-RFM-ARTICLE-1984.pdf

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Those are from 1984-85 and were written (or suggested) by Robert Marx. Marx, as anyone knowns, is as credible as Santa Claus existance.

 

[VOC]

Alexandre, Marx has done more Underwater Archaeology than you and your Archaeological freinds will ever get to do.

Unfortunately you are not old enough to remember when he was one of the biggest names in underwater archaeology.

That’s why UNESCO asked him to write a chapter in their 1972 (probably before you were born) book “Underwater Archaeology a nascent discipline” and he also regulary published in many other UNESCO and other academic publications and papers etc.

Just because Archaeology has changed and he has the knowledge and sense based on experience to differentiate between wrecks that need detailed to the millimetre recording and wrecks that don’t, does not mean that he is not credible.

But there again, I would not expect an indoctrinated youngster who is still learning his archaeology, to read up on someone’s past, as they would rather just spout out their current Guru's latest thoughts.

What Marx has wrote about Cadiz is exactly what has happened, and where were all the Liberian archaeologist jumping up and down when these developments were being carried out ?.

 

[Alexandre]

But there again, I would not expect an indoctrinated youngster who is still learning his archaeology, to read up on someone’s past, as they would rather just spout out their current Guru's latest thoughts.

VOC, Bob Marx and I have discussed our "differences" face to face, back in 1995. If you want to read about him, me and Unesco, try this:

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0010/001051/105111e.pdf

http://www.abc.se/~pa/publ/monteiro.htm

 

[tarpon192]

Alexandre, Marx has done more Underwater Archaeology than you and your Archaeological freinds will ever get to do.

Unfortunately you are not old enough to remember when he was one of the biggest names in underwater archaeology.

That’s why UNESCO asked him to write a chapter in their 1972 (probably before you were born) book “Underwater Archaeology a nascent discipline” and he also regulary published in many other UNESCO and other academic publications and papers etc.

Just because Archaeology has changed and he has the knowledge and sense based on experience to differentiate between wrecks that need detailed to the millimetre recording and wrecks that don’t, does not mean that he is not credible.

But there again, I would not expect an indoctrinated youngster who is still learning his archaeology, to read up on someone’s past, as they would rather just spout out their current Guru's latest thoughts.

What Marx has wrote about Cadiz is exactly what has happened, and where were all the Liberian archaeologist jumping up and down when these developments were being carried out ?.

Very well put Vox. Why does this alexandre guy cry so much?

 

[maipenrai]

I hope Spain has fun with their Prize catch, and actually takes care of the hazardous waste, (fiberglass). I dont think they really want the wreck, but just want to make sure any bigger prize doesnt get away.

 

[VOC]

Alexandre

Thanks for posting links to the two documents that I (and many others) have read before.

The two part sentences that absolutely backs up what I said above are:

1. First Document:"is a man marine archaeologist love to hate"
2, Second Document: "In this I go, hand in hand, with Filipe Castro, the ayatollah"

Both statements are really pathetic and just shows that many marine archaeologist are not free thinking individuals that are free to, or intellectually capable of making their own minds up !

 

[MORE AND BEYOND OSSY]

In response to the previous article that piratediver posted......I thought it was interesting that this article on MSNBC stated the vessel now belongs to Spain (see below in bold)

So this vessel, lost for just 3 years, in which the owner is positively identified, loses possession because it washed up on Spanish shores. But a Spanish vessel, lost 350 years ago on American shores, where the identiity of both ship and owner are unknown, still belongs to Spain?

By Becky Bratu, msnbc.com

The Spanish Coast Guard alerted their U.S. counterpart Tuesday. Based on salvage law, the boat now belongs to Spain.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...ars-after-us-accident-boat-washes-up-in-spain

Tom

Did you read the part were the owner doesn't want the boat back
Spain can send it back when the fly into Tampa to recover its property.
Ossy