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    British golden ship Madagascar found ?...


    I found on the web that the British ship Madagascar a famous blackwaller of Green and C who left Melbourne for London in August 1853 whith more than two tons of Australian gold had been found by an international team of researchers. Now they plan to organize an archeological expedition to visit the ship and to save the gold. They don't say of course where the ship is lying and at what depth. See www.shipmadagascar.com if you want to learn more. The loss of the Madagascar is one of the greatest sea mystery of the nineteenth century... Who has more info about this incredible discovery?
    Pepe
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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe
    Who has more info about this incredible discovery?
    What discovery? The only thing we have is an internet statement... so, the proof of burden lies with that "international team".

    Another scam, if you ask me.

  3. #3
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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Another scam, if you ask me.
    [/quote]

    That is not an info, just a personal opinion... So you don't know more...

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe


    That is not an info, just a personal opinion... So you don't know more...
    An opinion, yes, but an educated one.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre
    an educated one.
    Open for debate.....

    The "international team of RESEARCHERS does make me wonder as well. Generally researchers find a general area, and explorers lay hands on the actual wreck. Who knows, it will be an interesting story to watch, but I haven't heard anything else about it.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    So Alexandre, you pretend to be educated...

    But Educated in what especially? Not in Maritime history I guess...

    Who pretend to knows a lot knows nothing ! Arab (or chinese) proberb

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe


    That is not an info, just a personal opinion... So you don't know more...
    An opinion, yes, but an educated one.

    They say the proof is in the pudding
    Ossy
    Son of Wolf

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by MORE AND BEYOND OSSY
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe


    That is not an info, just a personal opinion... So you don't know more...
    An opinion, yes, but an educated one.

    They say the proof is in the pudding
    Ossy
    Actually, what they are supposed to say is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" - why can't people get things straight any more?

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    New poster comes up with a more than doubtfull story and starts barking once the word "scam" is mentioned. - Hmm- makes you wonder.
    Many members of this forum don't allways agree with Alexandre's opinion, but nobody would ever question his education and knowledge.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Hoax or not, it's hard to say without more information.

    The Madagascar disappeared without a trace while travelling from Melbourne to London. That is a lot of open ocean to disappear in.

    There have been plenty of theories about the disappearance such as she wrecked around the Cape Horn, her wool cargo spontaneously combusted, or possibly that she was pirated. One of the passengers were arrested just prior to the ship's departure because he was found to be involved in the robbery of the McIvers gold escort bringing more gold dust to the ship just days earlier.

    The ship left with 60,542 ounces of gold dust on board. A pretty tempting target.

    Anyway, if they found the ship, great. But the odds of them finding and identifying this ship are extremely remote as there was no definate area to start looking.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by allen_idaho

    The ship left with 60,542 ounces of gold dust on board. A pretty tempting target.

    Anyway, if they found the ship, great. But the odds of them finding and identifying this ship are extremely remote as there was no definate area to start looking.
    And I would add that, even if found, if the gold containers are gone, recovering gold dust from a shipwreck would be next to impossible.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    So will the gold dust be considered cultural property of Spain?

    Crow


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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Property of Australia, possibly. It all came from the McIvers diggings. They could always raise the same stink as Spain does.

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    Re: British golden ship Madagascar found ?...

    Quote Originally Posted by allen_idaho
    Property of Australia, possibly. It all came from the McIvers diggings. They could always raise the same stink as Spain does.
    It is said that the main part of the gold was owned by some private banks. At least the official cargo which was around 2 tons. I also presume that the cargo was assured by insurance companies like the Lloyd's... So who could be now the owner of the gold if the salvors reach to secure it And what the gold carried by the passengers who were for some of them rich diggers coming back to their home in England?

    That would be a complicated law case No?

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    Interesting link and I am impressed that a daguerreotype or tintype of the actual ship exists. I'm looking forward to reading and watching more about this.

 

 
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