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May 16, 2012, 08:19 PM
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Canaveral Shoals and wrecks..
It is well known that many ships wrecked on the canaveral bite/shoals...they recently just opened up the "secure" area as well.
Is there any legit reason why people arent actively searching this area for wrecks? You need a permit to salvage, but that doesnt mean you cant still look.
Am I missing a legality here? Or is it just an unpleasant place to dive (huge sharks, poor vis, current, etc)
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May 16, 2012 08:19 PM
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May 16, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Lots of junk, dangerous shoals, questionable vis, deep sand. There are people looking. There have been a number of operations all along the Cape.
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May 17, 2012, 06:29 AM
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Just completed magnetometer and side scan sonar surveys of that area. It is exactly like Signumops posted. There is much junk, NO visibility, very deep sand, and dangerous shoals.
" Him cheat him friend of his last guinea,
Him kill both friar and priest- O dear!
Him cut de t'roat of piccaninny,
Bloody, bloody buccaneer."
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May 17, 2012, 07:01 AM
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 da book worm--researcher
to search for shipwrecls "offically" by law in florida waters --you have to buy a "permit" and report what you found to even look around these days --thats the "grubbermint" in action -- and once your bled out by payng for the first two permits and all the cost and BS that goes with it -- then when its time to get the all important money making 3rd permit --the "harvesting /salvaging permit" -- nope they are not issuing you one , for whatever BS reason of the day , they dream up and theres no one to appeal to since they got a "deadlock" on the permitting process --they and they alone run the entire process -start to finish -- only a long and costly lawsuit might get you a "harvesting" permit (but only if you win that is) --but again it will bleed you fiscally dry (the archies are defended legally by "the state" at tax payor expense thus long drawn out lawsuits are no "big deal" to them) --so that in the end even if you win , you will be so fiscally "tapped out" you will not be able to fund your recovery project properly and make a profiet in the long haul. -- it is not by "accident" that things are done this way by the state archies , but rather by design * --its meant to kill off the treasure salvage bussiness -slowly but surely.
Last edited by ivan salis; May 17, 2012 at 07:11 AM.
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May 17, 2012, 12:31 PM
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It would be funny one day..if everyone decided to just ban together, the salvors at least, and hide what they find among themselves...create private collection museums, get archies that are on our side not related to the state, etc...a secret society of treasure hunting so to say haha
far as they know, we look ALL the time, just have never found a single thing.
I would get a chuckle out of something of that nature
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May 17, 2012, 02:55 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by ou8acracker2
It would be funny one day..if everyone decided to just ban together, the salvors at least, and hide what they find among themselves...create private collection museums, get archies that are on our side not related to the state, etc...a secret society of treasure hunting so to say haha
far as they know, we look ALL the time, just have never found a single thing.
I would get a chuckle out of something of that nature
There already is such a secret society. That's why you're here. Break out your decoder ring and be welcomed to the realm of the luckless, landless and dis-possessed.
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May 17, 2012, 06:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by signumops
There already is such a secret society. That's why you're here. Break out your decoder ring and be welcomed to the realm of the luckless, landless and dis-possessed.
As I say, Welcome to the dark side!
"Does anyone know where the love of god goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours"
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May 18, 2012, 06:43 AM
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While working with Florida Research and Recovery we spent months maging and diving that area just outside of the security zone. Yes, lots of space junk, even found a partial rocket still with the USA logo on the side in approximately 25' of water and a practice bomb. Lots of cables, pipes and such but no booty.
diverlynn
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May 18, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Thats comforting..no wonder they dont give permits to salvage the area haha the stuff they dont want people to bring to the surface.
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May 19, 2012, 04:17 AM
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 da book worm--researcher
there the plat rocket well worth finding
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May 19, 2012, 07:18 PM
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 LIMO BOB
 Originally Posted by signumops
There already is such a secret society. That's why you're here. Break out your decoder ring and be welcomed to the realm of the luckless, landless and dis-possessed.
DECODER RINGS!....OK, where do I get my decoder ring...
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May 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
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You have to be old to have a decoder ring. They quit giving them away once Howdy Doody left the air. I got mine on Ebay, but I think the Spanish embassy and the U.S. Dept. of State has squashed any sales in the western hemisphere. Sorry.
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May 20, 2012, 05:35 PM
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I have " Project BlueBook Ring.. does that count for anything..
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May 20, 2012, 05:55 PM
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 Originally Posted by Sapper23
I have " Project BlueBook Ring.. does that count for anything..
Nope!
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May 20, 2012, 06:48 PM
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That's OK.. Howdy Doody was to slow...., I'll stay with " Swamp Fox "..
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May 21, 2012, 07:12 AM
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Stop it Terry. I can't laugh too hard right now, weak bladder.
" Him cheat him friend of his last guinea,
Him kill both friar and priest- O dear!
Him cut de t'roat of piccaninny,
Bloody, bloody buccaneer."
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May 21, 2012, 12:10 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Goldminer
Stop it Terry. I can't laugh too hard right now, weak bladder.
Use the ring!! Use the ring, man!!!
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Probably being monitored by NIJ, DOJ, TSA, FBI, SEC, BAR, DHR, DEP, ICE, NSA, CIA, TSA, Grayhound Bus, Virgin Records, Carters Little Liver Pills, LLC This and LLC That... you name it.
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May 22, 2012, 05:57 AM
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" Him cheat him friend of his last guinea,
Him kill both friar and priest- O dear!
Him cut de t'roat of piccaninny,
Bloody, bloody buccaneer."
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Jul 04, 2012, 03:56 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by signumops
You have to be old to have a decoder ring. They quit giving them away once Howdy Doody left the air. I got mine on Ebay, but I think the Spanish embassy and the U.S. Dept. of State has squashed any sales in the western hemisphere. Sorry.
Not only that, but there's an archie police force going around confiscating the decoder rings.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." — Friedrich Nietzsche
"You ask where I live. I cannot tell you. I am a Voyageur, a Chicot, sir. I live everywhere. My grandfather was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. My father was a voyageur; he died while on a voyage. I will also die while en route, and another Chicot will take my place. Such is our course of life."
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Jul 05, 2012, 08:25 PM
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 Originally Posted by Bum Luck
Not only that, but there's an archie police force going around confiscating the decoder rings.
You all got it wrong... I use a Captain Midnight token..you gotta be stealth...go in under the cover of darkness... even the sharks can't smell your presence...
Now! What the he%$ were you all writing about?
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