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Nov 30, 2006, 09:34 AM
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Nov 30, 2006, 10:22 AM
#2
Re: Goggle:
Here are the cords.
29-09' 37.24" N
82-48' 50.50" W
To better see go to 350' eye view.
iN CASE SOME OF YOU ARE WONDERING -YES THIS IS THE GENERAL AREA OF MY GHOST SHIP. But it covers about 16 sq. miles.
When you look pay close attention to the BLACK area. This is MUD and SILT going out with the tide.
And some of you I know were thinking that this project could no be that hard to do. What do you think now and YES as you can now see(almost) the vis IS "0".
Peg Leg
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Nov 30, 2006, 10:23 AM
#3
Re: Goggle:
Cornelius,
I guess that you never got it but I did send it but no matter here are the cords.
Peg Leg
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Nov 30, 2006, 02:38 PM
#4
Re: Goggle:
Could be the footprint of a jack up barge, the odd leg position for walking the barge. if so what why was a barge spudded in at that location
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Nov 30, 2006, 03:24 PM
#5
Re: Goggle:
I have seen similar markings on Terraserver many times. I even found a
"?" (question mark) on one photo plate. I believe these marks to be something
to assist the technicians in assembling the final make-up of the composite
photo.
Has anyone done this type of work?
Dinkydick
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Nov 30, 2006, 03:30 PM
#6
 Sir Dives-A-Lot
Re: Goggle:
You may be onto something there Dick, I did some aerial photo stitching for Lockheed a while back. The cameras on the Predator put little marks on the edges so that you can orient them properly. Interesting thought anyways. For some reason my Google Earth here at work won't let me put in GPS coords right now?!? Could someone shoot me a .kml of the location?
Jason
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Nov 30, 2006, 06:28 PM
#7
Re: Goggle:
Well guys I guess that I am going to have to find out on my next trip to the Gulf.
I am having the same guy who works with NASA take a look on their computer. Man you should see their system $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
It is so powerfull it can see the treads of the bulb in a Lightnin bugs butt at 400,000 miles .
Peg Leg
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Nov 30, 2006, 06:35 PM
#8
Re: Goggle:
Didnot want to start a new topic so I will aks the question here.
Was Cedar wood ever used in building ships?
Peg Leg
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Nov 30, 2006, 09:07 PM
#9
 discovering & preserving our past for future generations
Re: Goggle:
I thought NASA was using an antiquated computer system, that they still had some computers from the Apollo days, and that by the time the shuttle system was in operation, that technology was nearly obsolete?
That's what they said on a Discovery channel TV show anyway.
The private sector usually has the good stuff.
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Nov 30, 2006, 09:21 PM
#10
Re: Goggle:
I have no idea but I will ask this ,
How good is the system that can disect a grain of sand recovered on Mars and get a clear scan of what is in that grain of sand?
I was told that this program was very expensive.
One must remember that the Government does not tell everything-sounds like the State of Florida. 
Peg leg
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Nov 30, 2006, 09:39 PM
#11
Re: Goggle:
I have a CAD program that would cost over $9,000.00 and have no idea how it works. Of course I did not pay a thing for it so to me it is useless but I still have it -somewhere.
Peg Leg
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Dec 01, 2006, 05:26 AM
#12
 Pirate of the Ays
Re: Goggle:
I will bet its a CAD/CAM program at that price.
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Dec 01, 2006, 07:32 AM
#13
Re: Cedar
Pegeleg,
I know western red cedar is used frequently in smaller boats don't know about ships. Also Juniper is used alot and that's a cedar also.
Parkerized
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Dec 01, 2006, 08:49 AM
#14
Re: Goggle:
Yes sir is it s CAD CAM program.
Parkerized,
While probing the diver doing the probing came up with a small piece of wood that he said appeared to be Cedar. So we probed some more and we found wood that was close to 100' long.
I believe he was probing a Cedar log but you never know until you recover the object and take a closer look.
Thanks
Peg Leg
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Dec 01, 2006, 10:25 AM
#15
Re: Goggle:
PEG LEG
Why do you think they call Cedar Keys, Cedar Keys?
Older boats were usually made out of most local woods which would
survive under the harsh marine environment.
My last boat was planked with heart cut cypress which was also
used to make tanks to hold water at train stops. Cypress is a very
soft wood but survives very well in wet/dry environments. The vessel
had oak ribs.
Dinkydick
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Dec 01, 2006, 10:43 AM
#16
 discovering & preserving our past for future generations
Re: Goggle:
Pegleg, try this link, it gives some information that may be helpful to you:
http://www.miamisci.org/shipwreck/shipbuilding.html
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Dec 01, 2006, 12:41 PM
#17
Re: Goggle:
gdaddyflex,
I really want to thank you for providing this reference site.
It goes with everything I am researching.
Did you know that West of Turtle Mound there was a Spanish ship repair yard.
The Spanish had a channel dug from the Atlantic to the Lagoon. In fact I believe that it is listed on maps as Ship Island.
Of course the channel keep closing up with the tides and storms so they just left it. Would be a great place to MD don't you think?
Again thanks.
Peg Leg
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Dec 01, 2006, 05:39 PM
#18
 discovering & preserving our past for future generations
Re: Goggle:
Don, I believe the Turtle Mound area is off limits to detecting, but much history there for sure. The Spanish used it as a visual landmark from sea, but also came ashore there for wood, water and to repair their ships.
South of there is another good area, a lot to be found (visually) around the OLD Haulover Canal, just south of its present day location. (which is visible on Google Earth)
If you have been to the McLarty Museum recently you will see all of the artifacts that Doug Armstrong collected from a French campsite circa late 1500's that he found along the eastern shore of the Mosquito Lagoon, in the Playalinda Beach area I think.
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Dec 01, 2006, 09:33 PM
#19
Re: Goggle:
gdaddyflex.
I have been to HAULOVER -the old one -many many times.
Did you know that at one time there were 3000 to 5000 troops stationed there-during the Indian wars.
I recovered a very large MATTOCK near the Cannon ramparts. When the Army moved out they shoved a 12 pound cannon into the mud so the Indian would not get it and it is still there and will remain there for all time.
The Fortress dirt works are still there.
This whole area is filled with history but no one will ever know it. Further north toward Oak Hill there was a Beer Company called Indian River Beer. It is only about 75' off A1A on the west side of the paved road. There are still old green beer bottles laying all over the place and several thousand Beer Bottle labels as well. BUT be carefull there are also a lot of BIG Rattlesnakes AMOUNG THE FALLEN DOWN WOODEN STRUCTURES.
At the old Haulover canal there is a HOLE in the ground near the highway. This was where the Army got their water. It is about 20' to the west of the paved A1A road.
I spent a lot of time looking for THINGS in this area. Actually this was my begining of Treasure Hunting.
Old habits are hard to break ae they not.
Peg leg
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