Found after 500 years, the wreck of Christopher Columbus’s flagship the Santa Maria

[Rock Rock]

Exclusive: Found after 500 years, the wreck of Christopher Columbus?s flagship the Santa Maria - Archaeology - Science - The Independent

 

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[Vox veritas]

Battered bell from Columbus' flagship heads for auction

Check full story in my book Galleons and sunken treasure (year 1555 San Salvador)

 

[Vox veritas]

Also:
Blagovest Bells— 'Santa Maria bell' auction and seizure

 

[Vox veritas]

At Columbus home-museum in Genoa, is a replica of the bell.

 

[El Dorado Seeker]

This is great news, if it's THE Santa Maria. There must be several old ships deep down there...

I just wanted to post the news, but I see it's already being discussed

I wonder if there's any gold aboard.

 

[Goldminer]

Anyone know how to contact Barry Clifford? I have information about that shipwreck that might (will ) interest him.

 

[grossmusic]

I could be wrong, but I believe Barry or someone close to him is on the forum here as "Whydah" if you want to private message him.

That "smoking gun" (15th-C cannon) they found in 2003 still seems iffy.

If anyone is going to find that ship, I'm glad it's someone responsible like Barry whose interests are as strong for the historical/archaeological as for the possibility of treasure. It's a ship that changed the world, so it's probably the most important find to date.

 

[Rock Rock]

Anyone know how to contact Barry Clifford? I have information about that shipwreck that might (will ) interest him.

Try contacting the author of the article, maybe he can track him down for you.


Good luck !

 

[Vox veritas]

In the 90s the French Loic Menanteau (as I recall) conducted a study in Haiti, determining that the miserable (and few) remains of the Santa Maria were on land. But in archeology is never said the last word

 

[ScubaFinder]

Goldminer, you have a PM.

 

[Smithbrown]

I am curious how they know the difference between a 15th century breechloading cannon and a 16th century breechloading cannon; they remained in use for a long time into the 16th century.

 

[Jolly Mon]

This is a cool story and I hope Clifford has found the Santa Maria, but it sounds fairly circumstantial at this point.

This is from the CNN article: "stones found at the site match the kind from the part of Spain where the ship was built."

I don't really get that. If Santa Maria was a typical merchant ship, she might well have changed ballast many times.

The other stuff sounds pretty good, though. Best of luck to Mr. Clifford for sure !!!

 

[Goldminer]

VV,
Bingo!!!

 

[MORE AND BEYOND OSSY]

Columbus's 'Santa Maria wreck found'

 

[penzfan]

amazing if true...

 

[LM]

It's the sort of claim that's going to get a lot of media.
Proving it conclusively, that's another ball of wax.

Hoping it's true but not holding my breath.

 

[Bum Luck]

................... It's a ship that changed the world, so it's probably the most important find to date.

Bingo.

I've read about this ship for decades, and frankly can't understand why this wasn't found before now. But I'm glad it has.

 

[Boatlode]

Columbus's 'Santa Maria wreck found'

How was the cannon "misdiagnosed" in 2003?

 

[Smithbrown]

And does anyone have any good photographs of it?

 

[Bobadilla]

Hi folks,


By my opinion, it is NOT TRUTH. Barry Clifford went to Haiti searching for Santa Maria 11 years ago, he spent there three months and he left with empty hands, he did not find absolutely anything. He claims that he photographed the shipwreck and then he found out that it could be Santa Maria. If somebody claims something like that, he should go to the closest library and read at least one book about the first voyage of Columbus. Then he would know that all the timbers from the ship were used as a building material for the fort of La Navidad. What can be found at the place could be just dispersed rests and may be some artifacts, but not a shipwreck. Also, Santa Maria did not crash against the reef, but she grounded on a sand bank. If Barry Clifford would really find a cannon from 15th century while searching for Santa Maria, he would never be quiet for another 11 years. Such a cannon at the place can be called almost as a hard evidence.


It is really sad that the world's media just repeat the report of somebody without doing even the slightest research about the facts.

Regards,
Bobadilla