**Perfect** salvage boat for 1715 type recovery?

[ARC]

Oh... And Jollyman...you aren't one of those that believes that old stainless myth are you ?

They do "become one"... IF.

 

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[ARC]

I gave up fiberglass long ago...
About the same time I gave up tanks. heh

 

[Jolly Mon]

Less than 20... not 30.
No real need anything bigger than 25 ever in shallows.
Less is more if done right.
My deck is solid free open 8 foot wide... flat.
Wide open...
No rails... no gunnels... in areas just deck.

OK. 19 or so feet long. Dual hulls. Maxium 8'6" beam as she is trailerable. Only draws 12 inches.

Sounds a lot like a pontoon boat.

You are going to try and take this thing out the Sebastian Inlet ??

 

[ARC]

lol...
I HAVE been out that inlet.
As well as pretty much every major inlet in Fl.

Um...
That inlet is childs play compared to here.

 

[ARC]

Jolly...
This is not my first Rodeo...
heh.

I been fighting the sea for all my life.
Born into it you could say.

 

[silverking]

Looks much like the crab boats that roam the Florida Gulf shores. I wonder how good they would be ?

They look very similar, perhaps minus the "Carolina Flare" on the bow.
I'm not that familiar with Gulf Coast crabbing ... do they work mostly in-shore, or is it more of an off-shore affair?

For work boats, the intended location for that work to take place tends to determine how far astern a steep deadrise goes before flattening out (if it flattens out at all).

My reading on the 1715 salvage efforts would imply that a boat with a steep deadrise all the way astern isn't required, although a steep deadrise at the bow helps get in and out of inlets like Sebastion (as noted in a previous post) when bad weather kicks in.
That steep deadrise, if carried too far aft on a work boat that does most of its "work" on the hook, would tend to cause excessive rocking while anchored and working.

Looking a a bunch of pictures, I'm thinking these Gulf Coast crab boats are indeed similar to a Chesapeake Deadrise, minus the Carolina flare on the bow, and with a different proportionality to how the deadrise changes from bow to stern.

 

[ARC]

lol...
I HAVE been out that inlet.
As well as pretty much every major inlet in Fl.

Um...
That inlet is childs play compared to here.

I made runs back and forth to Egmont for years... Min of 1,,,or2...sometimes 3 a day.
Go from Mullet to Egmont...
Then over to ANNA.
THATS a REAL inlet.
And god help ya when the wind kicks up on you quick.

One minute waves are 2-3... next 5-6... and if its a good sneaker...
Put on your seatbelt.

 

[silverking]

Me at just shy of twelve...

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Not pictures of you ..-.. pictures of your BOAT!!

 

[ARC]

SInce "pontoon" was brought up...
When you think "outside the box"... you come up with stuff SIMILIAR to this...

Only mine is better :P

 

[Jolly Mon]

lol...
I HAVE been out that inlet.
As well as pretty much every major inlet in Fl.

Um...
That inlet is childs play compared to here.

Really?

 

[silverking]

One last thing...
SInce "pontoon" was brought up...
NO... you cannot use a typical pontoon boat for this.

BUT... Whn you think "outside the box"... you come up with stuff SIMILIAR to this...

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You've put on weight since you were 12!

 

[FISHEYE]

You will need a boat that has enough power and speed to go into the sebastian inlet on a outgoing tide on a full moon.Sometimes the outgoing tide runs over 11mph so if your boat only does 10mph then good luck getting in with standing waves that are 10 foot high.Bring yer fishing poles so you can wait outside north of the jetty till the tide changes.But maybe you wont be able to do that when A big storm runs up on you with lots of lightning.You better have some sort of a cabin you can crawl into and wait the storm out.Covering up with a blue tarp dont cut it either.

 

[ARC]

I have not owned anything that only went 10 miles an hour since my FIRST bicycle. Which... I was actually pulled over by a cop going down the Treasure Island draw brige too fast.
He should have seen me 7-8 mins earlier coming down Johns Pass bridge. heh

Put that in the ole pipe and smoke it.

 

[FISHEYE]

AARC i was talking about boats in the water not little boats being towed behind your car on bridges.

 

[ARC]

My rig... 20x 8.6.
Will handle Anything needed on that coast... period.

Similar to this... "concept" / "look".
Only mine is aluminum... and sits higher... and has custom alum boxes all around.
3/4 covered.

Oh... and I m a Yamaha fan.

 

[ARC]

Ok... ok... here is a picture of my rig...

Rv pulls boat to water... Boat pulls RV to land.

:P

 

[ARC]

Lively bunch on here ehhh ? Thank goodness for the rest of Tnet...
Sheesh the "shipwreck" forum cracks me up... heh
Shipwreck forum has been... um....

And I joined Tnet primarily for this forum... go figure.

Anyway...
to each their own...
good luck in your ventures.

Oh... And,,,

I will leave you with this "parting shot"... heh

Do you think this could handle "your" inlet ?
Now take this and make it a "work" boat... with centered engine... A very large one...
You will have a slight idea of the "future". heh



Stems from some VERY old designs... Ones that are FAST... EFFICIENT...
AND most of all...
UNSINKABLE when done right ... AND STABLE IN LARGE WAVES... AND "your inlet"... heh



Take your "bilge pump(s)" to the Flea Market... NOT with you on your boat.

This IS the future of "salvage boats". IMO of course...
But what do I know... I mean... who am I... ?
Just some "dreamer" ?
Or ? someone you many have heard of ?
Oh... That's right... I almost forgot "who" I am... ?
I am many things...
But most of all...
I am the guy whos been on and in the water more than most have seen it.

Aka... just a dreamer... "who" has done it.

And since I have taken up a full page here...
I will leave with one more "tidbit" of "info" for you's that "scoff"...
My project was built 6 years ago...

Do you know how much money I have put into her since completion ?
Zero.
Heh... 100's upon 100's of hours... And no issues.
Time for new trailer tires though.

 

[hobbit]

Lively bunch on here ehhh ? Thank goodness for the rest of Tnet...
Sheesh the "shipwreck" forum cracks me up... heh
Shipwreck forum has been... um....

And I joined Tnet primarily for this forum... go figure.

Anyway...
to each their own...
good luck in your ventures.

Oh... And,,,

I will leave you with this "parting shot"... heh

Do you think this could handle "your" inlet ?
Now take this and make it a "work" boat... with centered engine... A very large one...
You will have a slight idea of the "future". heh

View attachment 1268831

Stems from some VERY old designs... Ones that are FAST... EFFICIENT...
AND most of all...
UNSINKABLE when done right ... AND STABLE IN LARGE WAVES... AND "your inlet"... heh

View attachment 1268832

Take your "bilge pump(s)" to the Flea Market... NOT with you on your boat.

This IS the future of "salvage boats". IMO of course...
But what do I know... I mean... who am I... ?
Just some "dreamer" ?
Or ? someone you many have heard of ?
Oh... That's right... I almost forgot "who" I am... ?
I am many things...
But most of all...
I am the guy whos been on and in the water more than most have seen it.

Aka... just a dreamer... "who" has done it.

And since I have taken up a full page here...
I will leave with one more "tidbit" of "info" for you's that "scoff"...
My project was built 6 years ago...

Do you know how much money I have put into her since completion ?
Zero.
Heh... 100's upon 100's of hours... And no issues.
Time for new trailer tires though.

Does this mean you are not a fan of the Chesapeake Deadrise ?

 

[CaptEsteban]

They look very similar, perhaps minus the "Carolina Flare" on the bow.
I'm not that familiar with Gulf Coast crabbing ... do they work mostly in-shore, or is it more of an off-shore affair?

For work boats, the intended location for that work to take place tends to determine how far astern a steep deadrise goes before flattening out (if it flattens out at all).

My reading on the 1715 salvage efforts would imply that a boat with a steep deadrise all the way astern isn't required, although a steep deadrise at the bow helps get in and out of inlets like Sebastion (as noted in a previous post) when bad weather kicks in.
That steep deadrise, if carried too far aft on a work boat that does most of its "work" on the hook, would tend to cause excessive rocking while anchored and working.

Looking a a bunch of pictures, I'm thinking these Gulf Coast crab boats are indeed similar to a Chesapeake Deadrise, minus the Carolina flare on the bow, and with a different proportionality to how the deadrise changes from bow to stern.

Here is a short video of harvesting clams with the same type boat they use for crabbing. Big business in Cedar Key, Fl. You might as well say that the boats are used inshore, since the waters are shallow in the area.

 

[CaptEsteban]

You will need a boat that has enough power and speed to go into the sebastian inlet on a outgoing tide on a full moon.Sometimes the outgoing tide runs over 11mph so if your boat only does 10mph then good luck getting in with standing waves that are 10 foot high.Bring yer fishing poles so you can wait outside north of the jetty till the tide changes.But maybe you wont be able to do that when A big storm runs up on you with lots of lightning.You better have some sort of a cabin you can crawl into and wait the storm out.Covering up with a blue tarp dont cut it either.

It's a " wicked,,,, wicked ,, place, she is !