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    Just curious, with all of the guessing going on, did anyone consider contacting the seller, a rare book dealer, and ask about the signature?
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    Yes, Seeker. This same rare book dealer had no idea, and considered the signature to be a detriment to the book's value. Go figure.

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    So, all of the book experts, whos job it is to get the best value for books, they find the signature has no value after this has been around for of 240 years. Yet, their expert opinion is of no value, yet a bunch of 'experts' on TNET who are guessing has value?

    Let me just throw a date out there....

    Say...1686?
    one of the better expert opinions, the book is published in 1744, yet this 'expert' claims 1686!

    brilliant!

    I think you should go with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekerGH View Post
    So, all of the book experts, whos job it is to get the best value for books, they find the signature has no value after this has been around for of 240 years. Yet, their expert opinion is of no value, yet a bunch of 'experts' on TNET who are guessing has value?



    one of the better expert opinions, the book is published in 1744, yet this 'expert' claims 1686!

    brilliant!

    I think you should go with that.

    Thanks for your opinion, Seeker, but I've moved on. Have a good'un!

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    Seeker...may wanna dig alittle deeper..or in this case..a little farther BACK...as to dates. Hint...The French Edition.

    And I have never proclaimed myself in anyway some type of "Expert".

    See post#3

    Unless I miss my guess...thats Alexandre Exquemelin's "History of the Buccaneers of America".

    It was first published in Dutch (1678), then translated into German (1679), Spanish (1681) and English (1684).

    You may have something here....jmo.

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    For a comparison of the 1678 Dutch edition and the 1686 French translation, see the 1974 translation and interpretation by the Danish author and historian Erik Kjærsgaard.[3] For a contemporary reprinting, see Esquemeling, Alexander O., The Buccaneers of America. A true account of the most remarkable assaults committed of late years upon the coasts of West Indies by the Buccaneers of Jamaica and Tortuga (both English and French), containing also Basil Ringrose’s account of the dangerous voyage and bold assaults of Captain Bartholomew Sharp and others
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    Quote Originally Posted by agflit View Post
    Seeker...may wanna dig alittle deeper..or in this case..a little farther BACK...as to dates. Hint...The French Edition.

    And I have never proclaimed myself in anyway some type of "Expert".

    See post#3

    Unless I miss my guess...thats Alexandre Exquemelin's "History of the Buccaneers of America".

    It was first published in Dutch (1678), then translated into German (1679), Spanish (1681) and English (1684).

    You may have something here....jmo.

    Ag

    For a comparison of the 1678 Dutch edition and the 1686 French translation, see the 1974 translation and interpretation by the Danish author and historian Erik Kjærsgaard.[3] For a contemporary reprinting, see Esquemeling, Alexander O., The Buccaneers of America. A true account of the most remarkable assaults committed of late years upon the coasts of West Indies by the Buccaneers of Jamaica and Tortuga (both English and French), containing also Basil Ringrose’s account of the dangerous voyage and bold assaults of Captain Bartholomew Sharp and others

    Exactly, thank you. And though that same bookseller's description states " PAGES ARE WITHOUT MARKS EXCEPT FOR PREVIOUS OWNER INSCRIPTION TO UPPER MARGIN OF TITLE PAGE ", she obviously overlooked this....


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    Exactly, thank you. And though that same bookseller's description states " PAGES ARE WITHOUT MARKS EXCEPT FOR PREVIOUS OWNER INSCRIPTION TO UPPER MARGIN OF TITLE PAGE ", she obviously overlooked this....
    Where is the image of the PENCIL writing in the book from? (the sellers images, correct?) So how did the seller of rare books miss this?
    The pencil mark is not included as it is not relevant to the value or historical value of the book. It is also easily removed, not affecting value. Notice the pencil 1744 on the first page is also not referenced. Perhaps "By Ringrose" is in JFK's handwriting?

    Unless I miss my guess...thats Alexandre Exquemelin's "History of the Buccaneers of America".

    It was first published in Dutch (1678), then translated into German (1679), Spanish (1681) and English (1684).
    Why would you have to guess? That IS the books title. It is also the 5th edition, printed in 1744.
    Part II was added and was written by Ringrose. It is all there in the description.

    This book has been sold several times in the past, with none of the rare book sellers giving any value to the inked signature on the first page.
    Last edited by seekerGH; Oct 11, 2017 at 01:18 PM.
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