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    Mound of bolders from a 16th centry spanish ship.

    Can any one tell me how big the mound of boulders would be from a old Spanish ship wreck ship.

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    Are talking about ballisct
    weight?

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    yes

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    Depending on the period, design and size of the ship and the amount of her cargo and the way the ballast was deposited, somewhere between non-existent and (the length x the beam) of the ship or stones scattered for hundreds of feet or yards..or a few miles.
    A heavily loaded ship would offload ballast and load cargo deep in the hold. The ballast master would be in charge of this activity, weighed everything that was loaded and everything that was unloaded. Weight, balance and trim are important. Lots of heavy cargo = not much ballast.
    If the ship struck a reef that tore her worm-eaten bottom out under a light breeze and stopped her forward progress, she might go down in a heap with a beautiful oval ballast pile, or she might have struck a submerged object 14 miles off the Pacific Coast of Panama and spilled her ballast and cargo for a dozen miles.



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    Excellance answer sir. A lot better answer than I would have come up with.,thank you, marion
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    The pile is identical to this picture you posted.

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    This is the source for that photograph: https://nauticalarch.org/gallery/wes...earch-project/
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    Bill Black
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    Subcontractor on the 1715 Plate Fleet
    You can either be a victim of the world or an adventurer in search of treasure. It all depends on how you view your life.
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    I have divers with cameras at the end of june, pictures to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmmm View Post
    I have divers with cameras at the end of june, pictures to come.
    Good luck, sir! We hope you find a big pile of treasures!
    Bill Black
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    You can either be a victim of the world or an adventurer in search of treasure. It all depends on how you view your life.
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    From The Treasure Diver's Guide

    The 1733 El Capitan's ballast pile is 100 by 40 feet in area, and rises 5 feet or more in height.
    "The finding of a great treasure from the days of the Spanish Main is not the cherished dream of only the United States and Florida citizens; countless peoples from other lands have shared such thoughts. It would amaze and surprise most citizens of this country, when their dream, at the greatest of costs, was realized, the agents of respective governments would, on the most flimsy grounds, lay claim to the treasure."
    ---Judge William O.Mehrtens
    1978 Ruling Against the State of Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropesfish View Post
    Good luck, sir! We hope you find a big pile of treasures!
    I wish , in Canada if you find a ship with treasure you have to leave it for the pirates to loot and sell on the black market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmmm View Post
    I wish , in Canada if you find a ship with treasure you have to leave it for the pirates to loot and sell on the black market.
    Not much different in Florida, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmmm View Post
    I wish , in Canada if you find a ship with treasure you have to leave it for the pirates to loot and sell on the black market.
    While I would never, ever advocate pirating in the US, I hold no allegiance and owe no obeyance to the government of Canada. Therefore, might I suggest this?
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    and this

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    Bill Black
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    You can either be a victim of the world or an adventurer in search of treasure. It all depends on how you view your life.
    Paulo Coelho, Eleven Minutes

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    the size of the ship and what all it was carrying as cargo had a lot to do with how much ballast stone was carried ---there of course average / typical amounts --but a ships Capt wanted to move as much paying cargo as possible --so if possible -- stones would be dumped over the side when paying cargo was aroundto replace it ---thus the old sea Capt's saying if he thought little of your sea going skiils or usefulness -- "well we'll carry em for ballast"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan salis View Post
    the size of the ship and what all it was carrying as cargo had a lot to do with how much ballast stone was carried ---there of course average / typical amounts --but a ships Capt wanted to move as much paying cargo as possible --so if possible -- stones would be dumped over the side when paying cargo was aroundto replace it ---thus the old sea Capt's saying if he thought little of your sea going skiils or usefulness -- "well we'll carry em for ballast"
    Hard to determine the size of a ship that shipwrecked from a pile of ballast bones!!

 

 
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