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    Quote Originally Posted by PhipsFolly View Post
    Shhhh!
    PhipsFolly, are you still living in the Keys? Must be a nice place to call your home! Queen's Jewels was quite a story built up around them. Whether or not they actually exist, the original shoreline was much farther out when 1715 ships wrecked. Much treasure washed up as the shoreline eroded away.

    The story centered around 8 chests which were the reason for all the delays, contributing to the timing of the disaster. One special treasure said to be prepared for the Queen, was a heart made of more than 100 matched pearls. If these chests did exist, would expect them to, from their shape and weight, not to wash along in storms as the flat coins, chains, and cannons.
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    Lease map here shows where gold has been found in red and blue for silver,

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    You can see how cannons washed right up on the shallow side of lease.

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    Pseudo-trails formed as beach eroded away.

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    Wreck site here is probably off Ft Pierce shoreline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_desert View Post
    Lease map here shows where gold has been found in red and blue for silver,

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    You can see how cannons washed right up on the shallow side of lease.

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    Wreck site here is probably off Ft Pierce shoreline.

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    What part of the treasure coast are these maps Red Desert?
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    I think this lease was where all the July 2015 gold coins, chains, royals, were found (on shallow bedrock under 4-5 feet of sand). Research that treasure story and you then should have a location for the maps. Even though the gold is found on the beach side of maps, it is out of reach for your coil except after storms. State of Florida won't give out exact gps on where a lease begins/ends so, hunting for treasure there is off limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre View Post
    They don't exist. Take this from a certified spanish-speaking, archival researcher.
    ? ? ?

    Please elaborate.
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    Has anyone have any idea on what percentage of treasures are yet to be discovered , how much did the Spanish recover after the disaster and what has been recovered from the Real Eight in the early 1960's ventures up until now ? .

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    According to older research material, all combined salvage operations recovered less treasure than the untold amounts found by beach hunters on Florida treasure coast. No way to estimate amount yet out there, some treasure was smuggled on board or bribed it's way. Not all the cargo was gold and silver, certain wrecks are known for coins. There should be a percentage left where ships broke up, being overloaded with gold and silver. It doesn't take NASA space technology to identify the possible location of the original shoreline in 1715 timeline. Spain salvaging plus Indians relocated some treasure.
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    To quote Dell Winders...

    "In my opinion, what researchers fail to consider is the location of the shore line during the time period of their research. During the 1500's, 1700's the shoreline extended much farther out than the present day shore line. Wrecks that are now found a half mile off shore may have wrecked close, or washed up on the beach of the earlier shore line making it easy for the Indians to salvage it's cargo and relocate it. Dell"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_desert View Post
    To quote Dell Winders...

    "In my opinion, what researchers fail to consider is the location of the shore line during the time period of their research. During the 1500's, 1700's the shoreline extended much farther out than the present day shore line. Wrecks that are now found a half mile off shore may have wrecked close, or washed up on the beach of the earlier shore line making it easy for the Indians to salvage it's cargo and relocate it. Dell"

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    I have to disagree. The Dutch cartographer Bernard Romans mapped this area just a few years after the 1715 fleet sank and his chart looks almost the same as the present shoreline.

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    I rarely hear anybody talking about Pirates chasing off Spanish salvage crews. If Spanish salvage crews worked the site surely Pirates would have soon followed. Unfortunately Pirates may not have been able to write so we have no way of knowing what % they salvaged. Luckily they left some treasure for us current day privateers to salvage from Davey Jones Locker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enrada View Post
    I rarely hear anybody talking about Pirates chasing off Spanish salvage crews. If Spanish salvage crews worked the site surely Pirates would have soon followed. Unfortunately Pirates may not have been able to write so we have no way of knowing what % they salvaged. Luckily they left some treasure for us current day privateers to salvage from Davey Jones Locker.
    Are you kidding me enrada ? There are several accounts of pirates attacking the salvage camps of the 1715 fleet. One famous attack was the pirate Henry Jennings attacking the salvage camp. And he recovered over 300,000 pesos in treasure and retired in Jamaica.
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    What bout the turquoise was supposed to have been used in making the crown jewels of Spain?











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    cerrillos-mining-district - Cerrillos Turquoise

    "According to legend, Spanish explorer Francisco Coronado sent specimens of Cerrillos turquoise to Spain in 1541 to join the crown jewel collection."











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    Napoleon Bonaparte's brother Joseph stole the crown jewels of Spain in 1815 when he fled to America when Napoleon fell from power.

    It would be nice to know what those crown jewels looked like. I wonder if any of those jewels were done in the design of the Flag of the Cross of Burgundy.

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    Here is a NM tourism website that says the turquoise did end up in the crown jewels.

    Turquoise plucked from mines here ended up in Spain's crown jewels.

    https://santafe.org/Visiting_Santa_F...rid/index.html
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