Olive jar

[bohala]

I recovered this olive jar a couple of weeks ago and I have been working in the area of a 1630 spanish wreck site. Does anyone know about olilve jars and if so have an idea on the date of this one.

[Marc]

WOW!? Where did you find it (near Panama?)?

Great find!? I don't know much about olive jars .... wish I could help...

Thanks for sharing!

Marc

[bohala]

Marc I recovered it here in Panama

[bohala]

Cornelius,, That mark I think you are refering to is a blister bubble in the pottery itself..

[omnicognic]

Great find! I would be proud to swim back to the boat with that! Looks to be in great shape, Congrats! HH omnicognic ?8)

[Mackaydon]

Bohala:
A great resource to assist you in ID-ing your pottery may be:
"Pottery from Spanish Shipwrecks 1500-1800"
Author: Mitchell W. Marken
(Board of Regents of the State of Florida)
ISBN: 0-830-1208-6
1994
Where you able to ID any other artifacts in the area that might help date this piece?
All the best,
Don.....

[bohala]

Don, yes I have the book of Marken, but it is a little hard to distiquish how he puts them in dates.. I was trying to see if he has a emal address to send him the pictures. I have recovered 7 of these jars from this site. I have been working a 1631 shipwreck, but this was found in another area a few miles away, and that is why I am trying to see if it could be from the same wreck...or another one..
Bohala

[Mackaydon]

Bohala:
One source reflects:
Mitchell W. Marken may still be a project manager for Mariah Associates, Inc., in Reno, Nevada. He consulted frequently on shipwrecks and other submerged site projects such as UCLA/RAINPEG in Guatemala, the USS Somers in Mexico, and the Lock Tay Crannog, a submerged Bronze Age site in Scotland. He was producing a twenty-part television series entitled "Shipwreck Discoveries", but I have no further info on that.

Another source:

Library
Minnesota History Center
345 Kellogg Blvd. West
St. Paul, Minnesota 55102-1906
Phone: (651) 296-2143

Email: reference@mnhs.org
I give you this last reference since a few years ago he wrote a book called:" Beneath Minnesota Waters" for the Minnesota Historical Society. and they may give you a forwarding email address.
Good Hunting,
Don....

[bohala]

Don thanks for the information. I will send them a email and give it a shot.

[mad4wrecks]

Bohala: Another helpful book is "Artifacts of the Spanish Colonies of Florida and the Caribbean, 1500-1800, vol. 1: Ceramics, Glassware and Beads, by Kathleen Deagan. Tha last email address I have for her is
kd@flmnh.ufl.edu

Regards, Tom Gidus

[bohala]

Thanks Tom Il give her a shout via email.

[bohala]

PC ,
This canon I recovered diving on my wreck site the same area as the Olive Jars. All the jars are in good shape, some have stress cracks and etc. The thing is I have not cleaned this jar.. I just soak it a solution of clorx and water to kill the sea bugs and smell, then just let it dry slowly.. After a week or so the smell goes away and the jar stays with the encrustation's .. Attractive this way I think.. Where did you find your jar? What year is it? Send me some pictures of your goodies
Bohala