gold on the clay and in the sluice.

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Went to a "beach" yesterday and found lead melted blobs just sitting on top of the clay , just wish there was gold in this area lol, no such luck.

The beach wasn't a good "sand" beach it was more a place where people go to "drink" and dig "quahogs" or clams if you will.

Did find about a buck worth of clad and some brass things as well.

Lead is about the same weight as gold right?

I didn't even have to dig most of it. it was just sitting there, I think I was the first to take a metal detector there this year or maybe ever. Because isnt out of the way, up a dirt road and hidden , you wouldn't know about it unless your local.
 

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KevinInColorado

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Gold is about twice as heavy (dense) as lead. Thanks for cleaning up the environment!!
 

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Went to a "beach" yesterday and found lead melted blobs just sitting on top of the clay , just wish there was gold in this area lol, no such luck.

The beach wasn't a good "sand" beach it was more a place where people go to "drink" and dig "quahogs" or clams if you will.

Did find about a buck worth of clad and some brass things as well.

Lead is about the same weight as gold right?

I didn't even have to dig most of it. it was just sitting there, I think I was the first to take a metal detector there this year or maybe ever. Because isnt out of the way, up a dirt road and hidden , you wouldn't know about it unless your local.

There is a Canadian gold prospecting forum (GPEX)* member (NS Gold Seeker) who regularly finds picker size gold in cracks in the bedrock in a tidal zone in your Provence. I think some of what he does is visual but he might do even better were he to use a metal detector. Give you any ideas?

Good luck.

* Google GPEX gold prospecting forum. It is a great forum and is mostly Canadian oriented.
 

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ead is about the same weight as gold?

Alright.

This is one of my peeves. People- Weight refers to the way gravity pulls on an object. DENSITY refers to the way gravity pulls on an object divided by how much space the object occupies.

Density most always expressed in metric terms. The density of water, for example, is one gram per a cubic centimeter. An object with a density of more than 1g/cc will sink in water and an object with a density of less than 1g/cc will float on water.
It does not matter what the object weighs.

Here are some common, pertinent densities-

Pure platinum, 21.45g/cc
Pure gold, 19.3g/cc. Placers are rarely 24K and will have a density less than pure gold.
Pure lead, 11.3g/cc
Pure silver, 10.5g/cc
Copper, 9g/cc
Iron, 7.7g/cc
Black sand, about 6g/cc
Diamond, Garnet, about 4g/cc- which is why diamondscan be really tricky to pan. Diamonds can float on black sands.
 

Duckshot

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Lead is about the same weight as gold?

Alright.

This is one of my peeves. People- Weight refers to the way gravity pulls on an object. DENSITY refers to the way gravity pulls on an object divided by how much space the object occupies.

Density most always expressed in metric terms. The density of water, for example, is one gram per a cubic centimeter. An object with a density of more than 1g/cc will sink in water and an object with a density of less than 1g/cc will float on water.
It does not matter what the object weighs.

Here are some common, pertinent densities-

Pure platinum, 21.45g/cc
Pure gold, 19.3g/cc. Placers are rarely 24K and will have a density less than pure gold.
Pure lead, 11.3g/cc
Pure silver, 10.5g/cc
Copper, 9g/cc
Iron, 7.7g/cc
Black sand, about 6g/cc
Diamond, Garnet, about 4g/cc- which is why diamondscan be really tricky to pan. Diamonds can float on black sands.
 

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Capt Nemo

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Alright.

This is one of my peeves. People- Weight refers to the way gravity pulls on an object. DENSITY refers to the way gravity pulls on an object divided by how much space the object occupies.

Density most always expressed in metric terms. The density of water, for example, is one gram per a cubic centimeter. An object with a density of more than 1g/cc will sink in water and an object with a density of less than 1g/cc will float on water.
It does not matter what the object weighs.

Here are some common, pertinent densities-

Pure platinum, 21.45g/cc
Pure gold, 19.3g/cc. Placers are rarely 24K and will have a density less than pure gold.
Pure lead, 11.3g/cc
Pure silver, 10.5g/cc
Copper, 9g/cc
Iron, 7.7g/cc
Black sand, about 6g/cc
Diamond, Garnet, about 4g/cc- which is why diamondscan be really tricky to pan. Diamonds can float on black sands.

Black sand is 5.1-5.4, Garnet 4.7-4.9, Diamond 3.0.

Atomically lead is heavier, but not as dense.
 

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Black sand is 5.1-5.4, Garnet 4.7-4.9, Diamond 3.0.

Atomically lead is heavier, but not as dense.

I gotta admit that I don't have a diamond to measure, but wikipedia says a specific gravity of 3.52 for diamond. Rounds up. But yeah, garnet is a bit heavier than what I posted.

Not at all sure what you mean by your last statement. Weight is meaningless without volume so far as density is concerned.
 

KevinInColorado

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I gotta admit that I don't have a diamond to measure, but wikipedia says a specific gravity of 3.52 for diamond. Rounds up. But yeah, garnet is a bit heavier than what I posted.

Not at all sure what you mean by your last statement. Weight is meaningless without volume so far as density is concerned.

He means the weight per atom is higher. True but not real world relevant since gold atoms pack closer together due to their atomic structure...as you say it's all about density!
 

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You do need the atomic weights for determining alloys like electrum as to how much of each metal you will get.

So for 303 grams of 50/50 gold silver electrum, roughly how much of each metal will you get?

A: 196g gold, 107g silver.

Atomic weights do have real world relevance.
 

Capt Nemo

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In chemistry, molar weight is the weight of a fixed number of atoms/molecules (something X 10^24) and is the same as atomic weight(s). So 1 mole of gold weighs 196.967 grams, and 1 mole of silver weighs 107.870 grams. Due to the density of each, you would see twice the volume of silver than gold. But combining the two would be a 50/50 mix.

1 mole of magnetite weighs 229 grams, so it actually weighs more than gold. But due to it's lesser density it leaves the miller table easily and the gold stays behind.

So we should be calling it density rather than weight.

And now I have everyone confused!:laughing7:
 

KevinInColorado

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Actually a nice description!
Avogadro's number, 6.022×10^23 [emoji3]

And while we are at it, it's mass not weight. Weight is mass on earth [emoji290] at sea level. I weight less at my house (9500 feet elevation) but my mass is the same.
 

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