Road Dog
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Had these awhile. These are my only ones of this type.
aquanut said:This is just a suggestion... but with everyone concerned about fakes, we know that the silver used by the Spaniards was 99.9% pure. They don't have that kind of purity today. Will a specific gravity test reveal the purity?
Aquanut
Mackaydon said:Cob coins were either 93.1% or 91.7% fine depending on the period.
OK thanks. But all of that IDing is kinda irrevelant on a fake coin. I think its of utmost importance to determine the authenticity. Fakes, replicas and counterfeits are showing up everywhere in an alarming rate and Im sure our readers need to know authenticity information as well. I know you are very knowlegable with coins and I understand you're not wanting to comment if you're not sure. I was hoping you could help. 8)Mackaydon said:On the other hand, ID--ing a coin as to its age, determining the monarch, chatting about the circumstances surrounding the coin (concurrent with the coin's date events, etc.) and discussing the knowledge that can be learned from the piece (real or fake) is were added value (and my increased attention) exists.
Don........
Thanks for the tip on the waves. The flat waves do appear on the Lima cobs, but the waves on the recent cob you speak of that I IDed as fake just didnt look right at all. It had way too many other issues and Sedwick had no hesitation giving his opinion from the pic as a crude fake. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,228193.0.htmlMackaydon said:If the coin is 'botched' in many ways, I have no problem--like the recent example of 'flat waves' under a 'waves and columns' coin; no problem. That 'irregularity' occurred naturally in the minting process.
OK I understand. np. Can you ID these? Its just that often it is a fantasy piece and not an exact replica. Like I said in the other post I collect pictures of replicas, counterfeits, and fakes. Often these counterfeiters make mistakes and no such cob exists. Also many members here buy on eBay and pay hard earned money for a silver fake. I just thought Road Dog would like to know. Maybe he doesnt care if its a fake and maybe I am out of line.Mackaydon said:BCH:
IMO it is unfortunate that you seem to believe that a piece is 'relevant' only if it is real. Granted, 'authenticity' is required in determining monetary value. But monetary value is only one aspect of a coin's total value. For example, IMO, teaching a child the story behind a coin, letting him hold what he might think is a ''real' piece of history and watching the kid 'glow' with a handful of replica coins pullled out of a (fake) satin pouch, should far outweighs knowing the coin is real, it's condition is (say) VF-40, it's encapsulated by a reputable company or it's retail value is (say) $17. What is the relevancy of all that to the kid or to one who is enjoying watching the kid playing with the replica?
Don.........