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  1. #1
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    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
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    Nice Coin

    Another nice coin from the Pre Long Beach auction...wish it was mine....

    Stan

    Bolivia / Guatemala. "Royal" 8 Reales, 1690-P-VR (Potosi). WR-8 var.; KM-R26; cf. KM-96.1. 27.49 grams. Charles II, 1665-1700. Crowned Cross of Jerusalem, quartered arms of Castille and Leon, all in quadrilobe; inverted Type II Guatemala countermark at right upper quarter of arms. Reverse: Crowned pillars over waves. Well centered, bold strike on excellent metal. Flan nice and round, but a little tight. Three dates visible. Attractively toned and very pleasing. Very Rare and interesting. NGC graded EF-40.

    Note the countermark that was placed on the coin in the 1830's and '40's, when the Central American countries of Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Cost Rica were attempting the fiction of a "United States of Central America." The effort was a dismal failure, but the necessity for the "country" to monetize whatever specie, bullion, old or foreign coin that was on hand resulted in many of the old Spanish reales being countermarked like the above piece.
    Estimated Value $5,000 - 6,000.
    Ex: The Millennia Collection, Lot 939.

    Our item number 116446
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  2. #2
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
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    Re: Nice Coin

    Beautiful detail.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  3. #3
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    made in Madrid

    Jul 2008
    BRISBANE
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    Re: Nice Coin

    Very very nice, I would love to add this beauty to my collection. Stan does the counterstamp
    add value or devalue the coin?
    Cheers, Sam
    Son of Wolf

  4. #4
    Charter Member
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    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
    1,030

    Re: Nice Coin

    According to Lazaro's book on silver royals "Reales de a ocho: Los redondos de Lima, Mejico y Potosi y otras acunaciones especiales" it says:

    "In the XIXth century, between 1838 and 1841 in the newly proclaimed Republic of Guatemals, after the breaking of the republic of Central America, many Viveroyal coins were countermarked with a sun above mountains inside a circle, which consequenty is also found in the Redondos. In my opinion, these counterstamped specimens should be valued more highly than the former countermarked ones, and be undoubtedly included in the Spanish series, since no coin loses its nationality because of its service to another country as a means of political transformation".

    Stan

 

 

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