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Nov 20, 2009, 10:00 PM
#1
Anybody got an ID on this?
I think its a cut piece from a 1 reale, it has the spelling of Philippvs with a V instead of a U. Trying to pin down a date. Does the M mean Mexico mint?
Thanks
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Nov 20, 2009, 11:55 PM
#2
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
It looks like a cut pistareen, like a half-real. The weird M on the coin I think is an icon supposedly representing a set of gates in the city of Sergovia, and it is the identifying mark of that mint. They used Latin to spell the King's name on most European coins of this period, thus the V in place of the U.
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Nov 21, 2009, 12:21 AM
#3
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
I thought the mint mark for Sergovia was their aquaduct; what would appear to be an 'm' over another 'm'. Either way, this 'M' looks unusual.
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Nov 21, 2009, 01:40 AM
#4
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
It could be an auquaduct. My source was just a general hobbiest site.
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Nov 21, 2009, 08:45 AM
#5
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
The coin is from one of the two reigns of Philip the 5th; either between 1700 and 1724 or between (later in) 1724 to 1746. The date is not on the 1/4 portion of the coin you hold.
You can determine the denomination of your coin since a full 8-reales weighs just a hair over 27 grams.
I'm assuming the 'M' is from Mexico City.
Don.....
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Nov 28, 2009, 01:49 PM
#6
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines. I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.
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Nov 28, 2009, 03:19 PM
#7
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
If it is, it should be .916 fine.
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Nov 28, 2009, 11:32 PM
#8
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
I dont know much about these Pistareens but here is a coin in the banner to compare. The mint mark looks funky. Werent they all minted in Spain as they were never intended for use in the colonies? http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...ic,279674.html
I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines. I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.
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Nov 29, 2009, 12:46 AM
#9
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
If the coin is a pistareen, it had a lower silver content [.833 fine] than the full-value, internationally esteemed Spanish colonial reales that dominated worldwide trade.
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Nov 29, 2009, 01:05 AM
#10
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
 Originally Posted by Mackaydon
If the coin is a pistareen, it had a lower silver content [.833 fine] than the full-value, internationally esteemed Spanish colonial reales that dominated worldwide trade.
Absolutely correct. The pistareens were "debased" currency with a lower silver content.
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Nov 29, 2009, 10:50 AM
#11
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
Its definitely a Pistareen. So I think that means it cannot be minted in Mexico. Here are the banner coins to compare several different "M" mint marks.
Reidman take a pic next to a quarter so we can determine the size. thanks.
I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines. I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.
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Nov 29, 2009, 10:57 AM
#12
Re: Anybody got an ID on this?
Madrid seems reasonable though the shape of the M seems too 'structured' when seen next to other Madrid mintmarks as shown 845 and 846 here:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...=clnk&ie=UTF-8
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