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  1. #1
    pt
    Jun 2007
    Minelab Etrac & Excalibur II
    25

    Need id on these spanish cobs

    Hi everybody here at TNet.

    Need your help to identify this 3 spanish cobs.







    Post edited.
    There were 2 pictures that as wrong.

    Weights and diameter
    1-2,3gr. - 24mm
    2-2,4gr. - 18mm
    3-5,2gr. - 20mm

    Thanks


  2. #2
    us
    Dec 2009
    MA
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    nice coins! sorry I can't help with ID's
    Kendall Tavern circa 1785
    "Refreshments for man and beast can be found within" -Jonas Kendall

  3. #3
    us
    Apr 2010
    Coral Springs, FL
    Garrett SeaHunter XL500 (PI)
    139

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Jacky......can you post the weights of each? Time being I am going to resize them and try to identify them. It is hard identifying them in 2x2's. What denomination were the 2x2's designed for?

    goldcoastwayne

  4. #4
    us
    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    All three from Peru (Potosi or Lima) and are post-1652 transition (because of pillar and waves). Bigger pictures will be necessary for more specifics, but bottom is a 1 reale assayer V. From the scale I would say the others are 1 reale coins too if the coin holders are the same size. Middle date looks like (16)94. Weights would also be nice to know, but not possible to measure accurately of course unless you unpackage them.

    Stan

  5. #5
    us
    Apr 2010
    Coral Springs, FL
    Garrett SeaHunter XL500 (PI)
    139

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Your bottom coin is (16)92. I also believe all 3 coins are 1 reale.

  6. #6
    pt
    Jun 2007
    Minelab Etrac & Excalibur II
    25

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Thank´s everyone.

    I will put the weigts and measurements this afternoon.

    PS. If you click on the picture you can see the photo in big.
    There are 6 pictures..... 3 coins, 6 sides = 6 pictures
    Hope this help´s.

  7. #7
    Charter Member
    us
    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds'; son and grandson)
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Bottom coin 1R Lima Assayer V (Francisco Villegas). An easy estimate of the coin's denomination is to weigh it against the 'benchmark' 8R of about 27.5 grams. Ergo, 1R would be about 3.4 grams.

  8. #8
    pt
    Jun 2007
    Minelab Etrac & Excalibur II
    25

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Hi everyone....

    I changed the pictures.
    The picture on the up left side was the same that the first in the midle...
    And because of that the bottom pictures aren´t from the same coin.
    wath happend... maybe the late hour in the evening.

    Really sory.

    Now every pictures are correct and i post weigts and diameter...
    If you click on the pictures you open one new page with one really big picture.

    Hope this helps...

    Thanks everyone

  9. #9
    Charter Member
    us
    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

    Oct 2004
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    I'll say #1 and #2 are 1R; #3 is a 2R based on weight.
    IMO, diameters are less useful since the thickness of cobs vary.
    Don..........

  10. #10
    us
    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    OK, I can see the pics now. For some reason they don't open in Firefox, but do in Explorer. Don, which one do you think is the Lima coin? The 1692V is a Potosi.

    What I didn't notice before is that there is a shield coin. It has the denomination (II) to the left of the shield, so I'm a little puzzled. It could be from old Spain. I don't have any references with me....


    Stan

  11. #11
    Charter Member
    us
    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds'; son and grandson)
    Minelab Explorer
    19,297
    12164 times
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Stan:
    I saw the pillar '92 V as from Lima since 'V' in Potosi changed his mark to a monogramed VR in '84 to avoid this confusion.
    Don....

  12. #12
    us
    Apr 2010
    Coral Springs, FL
    Garrett SeaHunter XL500 (PI)
    139

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Quote Originally Posted by DiveWrecks
    What I didn't notice before is that there is a shield coin. It has the denomination (II) to the left of the shield, so I'm a little puzzled. It could be from old Spain. I don't have any references with me....
    Stan
    Jacky, I noted Stan's comment and noticed on your tag that you are displaying a Portugese flag....were these coins acquired on this side of the Atlantic or in Europe?

    Thanks, Wayne

  13. #13
    pt
    Jun 2007
    Minelab Etrac & Excalibur II
    25

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    I found this cob in Portugal. On the beach.

  14. #14
    us
    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
    1,038
    6 times

    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    Stan:
    I saw the pillar '92 V as from Lima since 'V' in Potosi changed his mark to a monogramed VR in '84 to avoid this confusion.
    Don....
    Don, I agree with you after seeing it with a better monitor. I see enough of the "L" to know it is not a "P". What you say is correct most of the time, but there are examples (apparently rare) where the V was shortened from VR even after 1684 when the die sinker ran out of room, which I assume would be more common on smaller denomination (size) coins.

    Stan

  15. #15
    us
    Sep 2004
    Down South - Marietta, GA
    Minelab Explorer SE (land), Aquapulse AQ1B (sea), Fisher CZ-20 (water, beach), Fisher 1266X (woods)
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    Re: Need id on these spanish cobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacky
    I found this cob in Portugal. On the beach.
    Pretty sure it is Spanish then (rather than Spanish colonial). Good find....

    Stan

 

 
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