Coin ID help needed

[mad4wrecks]

Any info you can provide is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Tom

[Trez]

This is what I can share......
I'd even be interested about this one.
anyone care to step up?


I'll take a stab...it's a fake from what I see (from what I see- so thats means very little OK)
Look at the elements throughout, nothing seems unusual to you? poor quality details, details that don't look as they should, very flat features - too flat, nothing gives the feel of it being real.
I don't have a good feeling on this one Flex, sorry.

Care to share the info you have on it. offline if you wish.

Trez

[Zephyr]

I'll take a guess.
4 escudo
S mark, probably Santa Fe de Bogata
Shield design, ? Philip IV (1621-1665)

[Mackaydon]

Per Sedwick, no 4s or 8s until about 1736. Guessing a 2 from 1722-1732. "S" of Jose Sanchez de la Torre.

[Don in SJ]

I'm crossed eyed from looking but I am leaning towards Phillip III 1613-16 or a Phillip II 1593-1596, there abouts?

http://www.newworldtreasures.com/cobs_potosi.htm

Don

[Zephyr]

On closer examination of the pics, it looks "cast".
The raised dots on the surfaces where it's also "worn flat" smacks of pitting in a mold (possibly "lost wax", but more likely a sand mold.) Not to mention the "chunks" which seem to be missing (slag present in the pour could cause that.)
I still stand by "attributing" it to Philip IV (based on the shield design), even if it is a fake (which if it is, I'm unimpressed, because the design is so crude.)

[mad4wrecks]

The coin was found along with bronze pins, spikes and pottery sherds, so I am led to believe the coin is authentic.

[mad4wrecks]

It was sent to me in an email-asking me to ID it. The email also stated that bronze spikes were found, along with an unidentified gold object, and pottery shards. I was asked if I wanted to help explore the site, but have not received a response.

[mad4wrecks]

ok folks, this is the latest email I received regarding the coin I posted above: [

i]The coin is definitely silver, darkened by the sea [/i].

[Trez]

OK that's better Flex.........

so I would then....keep the bronze spikes, unidentified gold object, and the pottery shards and run as fast as I could from that silver thing that resembles a cob
It has to many faults to it.........throw it back. lol

Trez

[divewrecks]

Tom, my cob coin library is so extensive it is almost sickening. If you need help remind ne again. I have so many books it will take awhile, but would do in your support. Let me know if you still don't know the approximate date.

Regards, Stan