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  1. #1

    Mar 2007
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    donkey cobbs?

    i'll try this again.i'm not too good @this attachment stuff these are 8 realesw/greek crosses.to the left of the shield is either 8 or S and underneath that R or D.any ideas?the gentleman,i bought themfrom said they were part of a donkey train in panama and if the donkey died they buried the coins and came back for them
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Nice Cobs...HEE HAA HEE HAA...

    Krause, Mishler Spain, Portugal and the New World.
    Seville Spain...dates range from 1622 (D) assayer to 1627-1662 assayer (R)
    just my guess but I think that Donkey broke his leg and fell off the trail around the mid 1620s to early 1630s, they look like fully weighted pieces.

    bit strange...that they would show in Panama, as they were New World cobs, minted in Mother Spain.

    thanks,
    Trez

  3. #3

    Mar 2007
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Thanks,Trez.I guess thats why i couldn't find them in "Practical Book of Cobs".Any idea what they're worth and what source book did you locate them with? Thanks again, Keegah
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by keegah
    Thanks,Trez.I guess thats why i couldn't find them in "Practical Book of Cobs".Any idea what they're worth and what source book did you locate them with? Thanks again, Keegah
    I did mention the source...next sentence below my HEE HAA HEE HAA

    trez

  5. #5

    Mar 2007
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    thanks, trez. how did they transport coinage from potosi and mexico city to the galleons? were there certain well traveled routes i.e. patrolled etc.was isthmus of panama a transit point?thanks,keegah
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by keegah
    thanks, trez. how did they transport coinage from potosi and mexico city to the galleons? were there certain well traveled routes i.e. patrolled etc.was isthmus of panama a transit point?thanks,keegah
    by mule/donkey train...hee haa hee haa
    the cobs you have are not South American - such as Potosi, Lima, Mexican mints (your cobs were already minted in Spain)...so why did they have to ship cobs that were minted in Spain and use Mule train on the "Spanish Camino Real" trail to Panama to send back to Spain? humm.

    ask him that? I would like to learn more myself. Thanks

    Trez

  7. #7

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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    It's possible that the coins started their journey in Spain, made their way to the Philippines via trade, crossed the Pacific on a Manila galleon to Panama, were loaded for transport across the isthmus to the east coast (where accumulated treasure would be shipped off to Spain), and were lost when a mule fell off a cliff or the boat they were on sank in a river (incidences of which were recorded.) Notice that I said "possible"....

  8. #8

    Mar 2007
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Would the silver be new world silver?the coins are very heavy.i like them alot; they're a big chunk of silver.are there any maps showing the "Royal Road"? im going to ask the gentleman more info as soon as work slows down.thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone on Tnet. keegah
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by keegah
    Would the silver be new world silver?the coins are very heavy.i like them alot; they're a big chunk of silver.are there any maps showing the "Royal Road"? im going to ask the gentleman more info as soon as work slows down.thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone on Tnet. keegah
    Yes...those cobs were likely made from South American/Mexico Silver in bar-form that successfully made it back to Spain on previous Flotillas. You can find info on these trails by using the www.
    and Merry Xmas to you too.

    Those are very solid cobs you have, nice indeed.
    Trez

  10. #10

    Mar 2007
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Trez,spoke to the gentleman i got these from.He said they were found around Bogota not Panama, on the way to load them onto the galleons. Any ideas? Thanks, Keegah
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    Re: donkey cobbs?

    Keegan:
    Here's a map of El Camino Real:
    http://www.bruceruiz.net/PanamaHisto...o_real_map.htm
    Don.....

 

 

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