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  1. #1
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    Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    The shipwreck is that of the Boticaria, a coastal trader coming to Porto Belo from Cartagena Colombia.

    In addition to this 1 reale cob, I recently purchased many items recovered from off the Boticaria itself (or from the immediate area) back before the wreck became protected.

    This ship wrecked in a storm, along with several rich vessels, in 1681.

    Questions: What is the mint and date of this cob? Again, it is a 1 reale cob.

    Thanks,

    Badger
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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    another view
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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    one more view
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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Badger:
    I looked at the bottom pic and it appears to have a date ending in '3' and maybe a '7' before the three; making it 1673. I also envision a mintmark of "P" (to the right of the '3', indicating Potosi.
    Caveat: My old eyes can easiy deceive.
    Don.......
    PS: I think Cartegena ;P and L; cobs were made only during the 1650s, so I ruled out that mint. Bogata minted during the period of the loss of the vessel, but didn't have (to my knowledge) a "P" mintmark; only a "P" as part of either of two assayer's names.
    Don........

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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    Badger:
    I looked at the bottom pic and it appears to have a date ending in '3' and maybe a '7' before the three; making it 1673. I also envision a mintmark of "P" (to the right of the '3', indicating Potosi.
    Caveat: My old eyes can easiy deceive.
    Don.......
    PS: I think Cartegena ;P and L; cobs were made only during the 1650s, so I ruled out that mint. Bogata minted during the period of the loss of the vessel, but didn't have (to my knowledge) a "P" mintmark; only a "P" as part of either of two assayer's names.
    Don........
    Thanks Don.

    Badger
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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Badger... I am pretty sure Don was spot on... looks like a Potosi Mint - 1673... very nice! Same type of coins as are most commonly recovered from the Consolacion wreck off of Equador which went down in the same year (1681). Phips

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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Quote Originally Posted by PhipsFolly
    Badger... I am pretty sure Don was spot on... looks like a Potosi Mint - 1673... very nice! Same type of coins as are most commonly recovered from the Consolacion wreck off of Equador which went down in the same year (1681). Phips
    I agree.

    I've cleaned many cobs from the Consolacion wreck.

    This one was found by a diver back in the 1970's.

    Thanks,

    Badger
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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Badger;
    Did you purchase any other cobs when you bought the 'Boticaria' collection? I'd find them interesting to view; especialy, if they are from the Bogata mint.
    It's possible, of course, that this coin 'migrated' across the continent from Potosi to Cartegena; and that it was on the Boticaria out of from Cartegena. I guess it's equally possible that the coin came from the 'Consolacion' or another later one out of Peru.
    Don.....

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    Re: Need Help with Shipwreck Cob ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    Badger;
    Did you purchase any other cobs when you bought the 'Boticaria' collection? I'd find them interesting to view; especially, if they are from the Bogata mint.
    It's possible, of course, that this coin 'migrated' across the continent from Potosi to Cartegena; and that it was on the Boticaria out of from Cartegena. I guess it's equally possible that the coin came from the 'Consolacion' or another later one out of Peru.
    Don.....
    Yes I agree but this was the only cob for sale from that general site.

    The fellow selling these on ebay is all sold out now and I didn't even notice his offerings until the very end

    He got very good prices for his stuff.

    I have some lead jar lids, ship spike/nails, mini ball, and parts of a big padlock plus many unknowns.

    Badger
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