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  1. #1

    Feb 2005
    21

    Cut reale ID help

    Found this cut reale and can't ID it. It is very thin (1.1MM)and weighs 1.3gms. I thought it was very worn but then the detail is still good. Calculating the coin diameter from the 1/4 peice I come up with about 26 to 27MM. Also it would make the coin weight at about 5.2 gms. I can't find any design like this in my KP book. Any ideas?

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  2. #2
    us
    Jul 2007
    Florida
    Minelab
    673

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    Jrhinely,

    Nice find!

    I think that you have a 1/4 of a 2-Reale machine struck Philip V coin. Probably period 1716 - 1759.

    The obverse has the crowned Spanish shield. The reverse has the arms of Castile and Leon.

    The legend on the obverse is: PHILIPPUS V D. G.
    The legend on the reverse is: HISPANIA - RUM - REX
    The weight of the complete coin would be about 6.7g

    Here is a similar coin for reference:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/SPAIN-ESPANA-PHI...2em118Q2el1247

    Happy Hunting!
    - Moe 8)

  3. #3
    us
    May 2006
    Treasure Coast (Vero Beach)
    Minelab EXII. Tesoro Tigershark, eyeballs to bloody fingers
    573

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    Very Nice Find Jr.

    Moe is correct...Philip V.
    The type you have dates to 1729 or 1730.
    It was struck in Spain, Seville Mint. You can clearly see the S*V*D The ornate flowerettes between the *PHILIPPUS*V*D*G* and the lack of assayer or mint mark in the normal postion indicate it is the from Seville...

    * denotes position of ornate flowerettes

    There is a perfect example in Numismatica Espanola 8th edition.

    I am now positive...it dates to 1729 or 1730 only. KM#340.

    Very nice,
    Trez

  4. #4

    Feb 2005
    21

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    Thanks guys-you all are great!

  5. #5

    Aug 2007
    42

    Re: Cut reale ID help





    I agree with Moe............





    Quote Originally Posted by jrhinely
    Found this cut reale and can't ID it. It is very thin (1.1MM)and weighs 1.3gms. I thought it was very worn but then the detail is still good. Calculating the coin diameter from the 1/4 peice I come up with about 26 to 27MM. Also it would make the coin weight at about 5.2 gms. I can't find any design like this in my KP book. Any ideas?


  6. #6

    Apr 2007
    Clearwater, FL
    1,224
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    awesome find
    but I'm curious about the straight / fine cut on the one side
    can someone tell me how they made such a clean cut

  7. #7
    us
    ARRG

    Feb 2005
    Sarasota, FL
    Whites Surfmaster PI Pro and Whites Surfmaster PI, Minelab Excal NY blue sword.
    1,662
    1 times

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    Probably with a 17th century lazer! I would think either a chisel, or a sharp hatchet, either hit with a hammer. Doesnt look like it was sawed.

  8. #8

    May 2005
    90

    Re: Cut reale ID help

    Looks reale to me, Jim
    "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana"

 

 

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