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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    mike...i have tested it quite a bit...actually mine isn't the pro... it is the gold bug SE....it was the one just before the pro......they had a problem with the SE so they stopped making it and came out with the pro...same detector..different sticker..lol..the SE had a problem..it was super hot on gold but wouldn't hit good on silver...so the scrapped it and came out with the pro..they fixed the silver problem but it lost some sensitivity on gold..i like the gold bug 2 but it is so sensitive when you get in hot ground you have to turn the sensitivity down to 4 or 5 to make it stable
    Not just that. You have to re-ground balance it every time the ground changes (bedrock, sand, gravel, hot rocks, etc). I will still take the GBII over anything (except maybe the SDC2300 at four to five times the price) for little teenintsy stuff close to the surface. If I want deep, I have my heavily modded SD2000. I did all the Ismael Mods. My Schiebel is not that good for gold, but is tested to find a 9 millimeter piece of wire at half a meter (its a mine detector and the only metal in a Chinese Type 072 AP Mine is a 9mm piece of wire).

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    Not just that. You have to re-ground balance it every time the ground changes (bedrock, sand, gravel, hot rocks, etc). I will still take the GBII over anything (except maybe the SDC2300 at four to five times the price) for little teenintsy stuff close to the surface. If I want deep, I have my heavily modded SD2000. I did all the Ismael Mods. My Schiebel is not that good for gold, but is tested to find a 9 millimeter piece of wire at half a meter (its a mine detector and the only metal in a Chinese Type 072 AP Mine is a 9mm piece of wire).

    Mike
    mike...i have a modded sd2000 also that was done by ismael..i haven't played with it much but i hear they are excellent...minelab has a new vlf out called the gold monster...supposed to be a gold bug killer..i know 2 guys that bought them...they were gold bug 2 guys until they tried the monster..they sold their gold bugs...the monster is fairly cheap too...700 bucks i think
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    I'm not one of those guys you will find out there swinging a metal detector...not my idea of fun...BUT...sometimes there's no getting around it especially if you're in a new area and you don't know what's out there...if you're into metal detecting and get into tuning your gear to find the smallest possible pinprick of gold, well this post isn't for you...but if you need a quick tool that's easy to use, auto-ground balances, discriminates well, etc...and you don't want to empty your wallet OR fiddle endlessly trying to remember how to tune an occasionally used tool:

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    Older Tesoro Lobo Super Traq

    AZ is kind of a crappy place to detect...the ground changes every 3 feet, there's a TON of junk everywhere, sometimes you're in water if you're like me and use the detector in/around old mines...you can get them fairly cheap used...just make sure to get a skid plate for the coil...if you're buying it used the previous owner has most likely already done that

    Auto ground balance and easy to take off the electronics and hold 'em up over your head if you're going neck deep in water...or just clip the 'tronics to your backpack if the water isn't too deep, the box has a clip on it for that purpose...not too shabby for a VLF machine, not expensive, and minimal fussing with controls...and I can still find small gold with the best of 'em if I get talked into going nugget shooting.
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    Good morning All: Question? How did this site which pertains to The Peralta-Fish Map turn into a discussion about Metal detectors Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis View Post
    Good morning All: Question? How did this site which pertains to The Peralta-Fish Map turn into a discussion about Metal detectors Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
    When the guy that started the thread asked a question about them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotBelly Jim View Post
    When the guy that started the thread asked a question about them?
    sounds logical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis View Post
    Good morning All: Question? How did this site which pertains to The Peralta-Fish Map turn into a discussion about Metal detectors Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
    discussion moved to another thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis View Post
    Good morning All: Question? How did this site which pertains to The Peralta-Fish Map turn into a discussion about Metal detectors Cordially, Gregory E. Davis
    Simple. This is Treasurenet. Almost every thread goes off on a tangent now and again. You should look at some of the threads with especially high page counts! Conversations here tend to do the same as conversations around a campfire. Goes one way for a while, then swerves away some, then swerves back, then a hard right turn......LOL You shouldn't give it two thoughts.

    Jim,

    Be careful with that one! Company is out of business. You should pick up another brand! Vince (owner) is currently still going in and doing warranty work a few days a week, but I don't know how long that's going to last.

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    Simple. This is Treasurenet. Almost every thread goes off on a tangent now and again. You should look at some of the threads with especially high page counts! Conversations here tend to do the same as conversations around a campfire. Goes one way for a while, then swerves away some, then swerves back, then a hard right turn......LOL You shouldn't give it two thoughts.

    Jim,

    Be careful with that one! Company is out of business. You should pick up another brand! Vince (owner) is currently still going in and doing warranty work a few days a week, but I don't know how long that's going to last.

    Mike
    every thread goes off course...its human nature
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post
    Simple. This is Treasurenet. Almost every thread goes off on a tangent now and again. You should look at some of the threads with especially high page counts! Conversations here tend to do the same as conversations around a campfire. Goes one way for a while, then swerves away some, then swerves back, then a hard right turn......LOL You shouldn't give it two thoughts.

    Jim,

    Be careful with that one! Company is out of business. You should pick up another brand! Vince (owner) is currently still going in and doing warranty work a few days a week, but I don't know how long that's going to last.

    Mike
    Thanks Mike...I didn't know that they were still in existence at any level...that's some serious dedication by Vince as I think they were the only detector company with a lifetime warranty? Anyway, if mine bites the dust at some point I would probably just get another one, at least for the time being there still seems to be a lot of places selling them...if not I would like to try the Gold Monster...

    Regarding "staying on topic", I don't think we were going off topic AT ALL. Since Hal, who started this thread, said he'd like to get into detecting but was "in the dark" about where to start, I see no reason why people can't respond to him and try to help him out/relate their experiences. The advice that Paul, Mike and Dave gave and discussed was great info, from experienced TH'ers, not just for Hal but for all of us. Hal is also doing a great job so far analyzing the Fish Map, and I hope when he's ready he will continue down that path in this thread.

    I'm surprised to see that Dave's thread on the Tortilla Flat Treasure Cave has been moved.
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    The Peralta - Fish map and several others from the past all apply tto the same general area. They line like ducks. According to Fabian Gonzales master map. But that is a story in its self.
    Oh! I have Jones personal modded minelab 2000 and just bought a minelab gold monster. Killer on gold. Found everything from flour gold to nuggets with it (sorry Greg for that )
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtfda View Post
    The Peralta - Fish map and several others from the past all apply tto the same general area. They line like ducks. According to Fabian Gonzales master map. But that is a story in its self.
    Oh! I have Jones personal modded minelab 2000 and just bought a minelab gold monster. Killer on gold. Found everything from flour gold to nuggets with it (sorry Greg for that )
    i'd like to see the gold monster in action...i've heard nothing but good about it

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    I agree this has some issues IMHO .. for one the folds in the map are wrong ,they match the ware ... same with the ageing and the fade of the ink ...sharp letters fine lines but the paper is old and stained .. and fake IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blindbowman View Post
    I agree this has some issues IMHO .. for one the folds in the map are wrong ,they match the ware ... same with the ageing and the fade of the ink ...sharp letters fine lines but the paper is old and stained .. and fake IMHO
    i could be wrong but i don't think anyone knows where the original fish map is....the ones you are seeing are probably copies
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    lets put it this way ,if fisher had a real map to the LDM this is not it ...IMHO
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