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    Welcome back, Tramp. Did you find any treasures yet? Keep in touch.

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    Good sunny morning coffee time:

    You gentlemen are doing just fine, loved the stories.

    I will continue from Nogales on down, a simple drive. To receive permits for 6 months and to pass customs, you had to report to a dual office where they issued personal permits first, the into Customs for inspection. No matter how much you insisted that you wanted one for 6 months, they only gave you a one month permit. when I objected, the official just grunted, smiled, then said" Just have it extended at any office, there will be no problem". what could I say? Later we found that there were no offices where we were going, sigh, another problem.

    From there we went across the room to the custom official who didn't even look at our permits but simply said "You are carrying too much gear for just a month" . No explanation would work, he would simply point to the official stamp. So far he hadn't even gotten up from his desk to actually see what might be in the car.

    The handwriting was on the wall, so we judiciously explained that perhaps we could pay a temp importation bond or fine?? He grunted and relaxed a bit and went into a bit of bargaining mood, then thinned out our small travel fund. This was repeated again about 15 miles below the border.

    The road to Hermosillo was mostly just dirt , with an occasional bit of asphalt being applied in remote stretches, they were starting to work on it. There were no complete bridges completed yet, so we had to ford some icky streams.

    About 100 miles down the road we again hit another custom inspection station, "El Infamoso Oases" . Here they were particularly tough, since if you didn't pass inspection (?) and you didn't wish to give up whatever it was that they pounced upon, you had a simple choice, pay or go back some 100 miles to the border. They had a very secure bit of income assured.

    Also, this was the first and last stop between Nogales and Hermosillo with gasoline, and generally were out of it, and in this case they were. This assured that the small, crude, motel always had guests waiting for the gasoline Tuck to hopefully arrive. We had learned to carry 5 gallons extra of gasoline so we escaped this trap and continued on to Hermosillo, some 45 miles of basically dirt road.

    In Hermosillo we learned that there was no gasoline available, but by scrounging around with the help of a kiddie, who was constantly mumbling something about his young sister (??) located 10 gallons of old, dirty gasoline which we had to filter. And were soon on our way to Guaymas, some 80 miles.

    We relaxed for a few days on the beaches of Guaymas then continued on our way south, naturally with 10 gallons extra of gasoline

    As we worked our way further south, the climate gradually turned more tropical and humid and the streams were big and deep enough that we couldn't ford them. so we had to use the pongos, a floating raft designed for ferrying cars. This isn't for anyone with a pace maker, a hairy operation at best.

    We eventually arrived at Colima, then went to the beach where we decided to say for a week or so toughening up. Actually we had no choice, there were 'no' roads south between Colima and Acapulco.

    Today, from Nogales, or any other port of entry, you go down a modern, well constructed 4 lane divided hiway to a large, efficient, Customs and Immigration area where you are quickly processed and are on your way. There are no further custom inspections, except for a possible roving one primarily looking for weapons, they generally simply wave you through when they see your temporary import permit on your windshield. There are many many modern gasoline stations all with good to excellent resturants and sanitary services. They even wash your windshields.

    All rivers are crossed with excellent wide concrete bridges now. A modern highway runs down the length of the West coast of Mexico, where we walked and at times cut a trail, you can cruise at 70 miles per hour. Places where we set up camp on lonely beaches, now have towns, sigh.

    Some times I feel as the old mountain men must have. out living my time. ©@

    Don Jose de La Mancha

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    Don Jose,

    I can really relate to your first post here. It's been over 40 years since I was in combat but once you have been in the mind set to fight like a dog to stay alive, it just never goes away.LOL. I knew a few guys who liked the killing but I liked the living part. It's a high you can't explain when you have been in many firefights and you come out without a scratch. It does change you and it doesn't go away. I never had much to do with guns after my service, except for teaching my son how to hunt. I found a woman I loved and we have spent our years together raising three kids and helping out with our grandkids. She would like me to carry a gun with me when I go into the sticks, but I don't. I'm afraid I would be too quick to use it. Besides, this old man still has a few tricks up my sleve that I've had to use on bullies over the years. LOL.

    Treasure hunting has given me the excitement that is different from the everyday things that I've enjoyed raising my family. I really enjoy the stories that you and the others have posted here.

    Thanks. Mdog

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    I been in treasure hunting since 1964, both searching parks and beaches and for large treasures. It give me a piece of mind and I enjoy reading comments and stories about treasures in other states and other countries. I am retired and have a great deal of time on my hands. Metal detector have greatly improve. I live in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
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    I too enjoy hot, humid, climates where an armed uprising can take place at a moments notice - that is why I vacation in Florida.

    Good luck to you in your quest.

    LMAO

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    Mdog: I well know just what you have posted about, as you will see as we go along. Congrats my friend for having survived the initiation. Fee free to post on any thing that you wish in here.

    Don Jose de la Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Conn danny: You will experience the same emotion when you hit your first good treasure, you are then ruined for life. as for Taoypa, that has been mine for a few years now. That deposit does exist and I know where it is, but cannot touch it yet sniffff

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Hombre de Plata, you have jumped the gun. I will eventually get to the episiode where Castro's agent tried to recruit me to fly PBY-5A's from the Yucatan to Cuba in the 50's. you might enjoy it.

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    Good evening, all,

    I think most treasure hunters have been born too early in history. I suspect that we might have all met up back 100 years or so ago, or during the old gold rush days.

    Jose is right - the first good find, and you will be singing the old "gold fever" song.

    Of course, along with looking for treasures, goes the camping - and, sometimes - you just don't always get the "home-cooking" you are used to.

    Which brings to mind, and little "camping" adventure that Roy and I took, oh, some 30 years ago, now. We were heavily packed - back when we
    could handle the extra weight - and had brought some macaroni and cheese, complete with canned milk (instead of dry), since are trip was not going to be many, many miles, and we figured we could afford the extra weight for the few days we would be out.

    Well, evening came, and Roy (who is a GREAT camp cook), made the macaroni and cheese for dinner (first, we love it, and second, it would lighten the load that we realized was heavier than we had planned, and was getting heavier by the hour).

    We enjoyed a big pot of great macaroni and cheese that evening - in fact, he had done it so well, he had even managed to get the top cheese a little crispy - something we also both love. So, we sat in the glow of the fire and ate, and drank coffee.

    Well, we couldn't finish it all, and being that it was chilly in the evening, we just figured that we would have it for breakfast, because it wouldn't spoil.

    Up and around the next morning, after coffee, we went and got our pot of mac and cheese. Only to discover that the crispy cheese that we had enjoyed the night before was - in fact - leaves, twigs, ash from the fire and a few odds and ends of what was left of some unidentified flying creatures that had dive-bombed its way into the pot the night before.

    We didn't eat breakfast that morning. And, we now try to have dinner when we can still see what is going in the pot

    Beth


    Beth
    "Irony is the rule"

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    DON JOSE,
    THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO POST SOME OF MY TREASURE SEEKING EXPERIENCES.
    AS SOON AS TIME ALLOWS, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AND ALL, SOME TALES, AND IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO COPY A FEW PAGES FROM THE BOOK THAT I AM TRYING TO AUTHOR.

    IT IS IRONIC THAT I AM HERE ON THIS THREAD, AS IT WAS FROM YOUR SHARING FROM YOUR VAST KNOLEDGE OF SPANISH MINE S/S AND THE DISCOVERY OF SOMEONE ELSE'S ERRONIOUS RESEARCH THAT HAS STOPPED ME FROM WRITING ANY FARTHER (TEMPORARILY) ON THE BOOK.

    THAT WAS A LONG SENTENCE... BUT IT EXPLAINS ALOT.

    I WILL PM YOU BEFORE I START SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEANT.

    HH
    PROSPECTORMIKEL
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    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    THAT'S JUST THE WAY I WAS RAISED TO SEE THE WORLD.

    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

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    Don
    While this post may be old, it is new to me and very interesting. There is not much going on in Connecticut pertaining to large treasures. I also enjoy reading about the treasure at White Sand Army base in NM.

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    I CONSIDER IT AN HONOR TO HAVE ONE OF MY MENTORS, INVITE ME TO POST ANY OF MY HUMBLE TREASURE SEEKING STORIES ON HIS TREASURE THREAD.

    SO THANK YOU AGAIN DON JOSE.

    SEVERAL YEARS AGO MY BEST FRIEND AND I WERE WORKING SEVERAL TRAILS AND SIGNS IN NW ARKANSAS. A NEW FRIEND OF MINE FROM WORK SHARED A DRAWING OF A SIGN CARVED IN A ROCK NEAR HIS HOME IN THE OZARKS. IT WAS A SIMPLE DRAWING THAT GOT MY ATTENTION AND THEN HE SET THE HOOK BY TELLING ME THAT THE STONE WAS AS BIG AS A TRUCK HOOD.
    JIM AND I WERE ON THE SEARCH THE NEXT DAY. WE HAD A GREAT MANY EXPERIENCES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AS WE SEARCHED FOR OUR GREAT SILVER MINE.

    IF THIS ATTEMPT WORKS, THERE WILL BE A FEW PAGES FROM THE MANUSCRIPT COPIED BELOW HERE.

    HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS...


    PROSPECTORMIKEL

    With my feet back on solid ground again, I turned my sights to the east and began climbing. It was still a battle to move forward through the thick under brush, inching my way only a few feet at a time. I made note of how far off from the work line that I was at all time. I stayed as close to the line as possible. I thought I had found a break, an actual break in the under brush, just a few yards east of my position. I knew I would lose a little ground by using the trail, but I would gain distance and time. Shortly after making the move, the trail started getting steeper and narrower. The closer I got to the top, the thicker the brush got, and just as I was ready to give in to its narrowing space I found a flat spot large enough to stand upright. I raised my head and to my tired eyes, standing right in front of my face, the vertical face of the bluff. I started to call Jim when I noticed scratch marks in the dirt at the edge of the stone face. They appeared to be small animal scratch marks, but taking a closer look, I realized that they were small bear cubís scratch marks. I got very quiet and waited to see if they were near by. I was soon rewarded for my patience. Just to my left, and just out of my sight, I could hear the cubs scuffle and move around. I could see that they had probably been digging for grub worms; however I didnít hear the mother bear at all. My heart pounded within my chest so hard that I could barely listen for the mother bear.

    It was only a few seconds until I was able to hear her. She let out a single snort. It was loud and clear. I knew I had to move. She was off to my right, which put me in great danger. I had my pistol strapped to my belt. I started to pull it out when I realized that Velcro wasnít the best choice that I had when buying a holster. The very first crackle of the Velcro sounded like a tree was snapping off at the ground. I had to leave, and as fast as I could do quietly. I had only one way to go, back down that narrow steep path. I started out slowly and quietly, but that didnít last long with fear pushing me and gravity pulling me. If not for the brush giving me a handhold to grab onto, I might have turned into a human snowball. I was probably about thirty yards away by the time I gained control and found solid ground. Then, and only then, I felt safe in removing my pistol from my holster. I nearly fired off a shot when Jim keyed up his radio to ask what all of the noise was. I explained it to him while gaining distance between me and the mother bear. We still had not seen them, but we knew they were there. At least I had no more doubts about them. I put the safety on and placed the gun back in the holster. I knew that I couldnít stop that mother bear if I had been forced to shoot. It was just a big noise maker as far as she was concerned, but all the same I felt better just having it just in case.



    IT WORKED!!! I HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT.


    PROSPECTORMIKEL
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    THAT'S JUST THE WAY I WAS RAISED TO SEE THE WORLD.

    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

  13. #28
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    You do realize that - if you are in grizzly country - you WANT to make noise - so they know you are there?

    Also, If you are in grizzly country, and you are carrying a sidearm - before you go, you will want to file off the sights.

    This is so that it doesn't hurt quite so much when the bear shoves it up your butt!!

    To add a little to the "bare" facts of "bear" stories, we have LOTS of those (unfortunately), so hold on, and I will bring you the first of many.

    Back in aught 7 (not really) - back in 1977, I think, we were living in a house we called "the little house". It was a little house, with a complete garage under it - but, above ground, so the house was high up in the air. It didn't have much land to it, but, we made our garden, had our chickens and goats and the whole nine yards.

    Well, that was the year we learned never to buy unmedicated chicken feed. Our chickens game down with a disease, and we lost quite a few before we got it stopped. Since we had coyotes, etc., we kind of just chucked the dead ones away from the house - and they disappeared by the next morning.

    One night, we both worked second shift, then, we came home at 2 am, normal time, and did chores (milking, feeding, etc.). Then, we went upstairs. A short while later, the animals all went ballistic. We put the porch light on, but we could see nothing. Roy got the flashlight out, and went down to see what was going on. Low and behold, someone's black dog got loose, the broken chain still hanging around its neck, jingling, jingling, jingling. So, Roy went down, and called it three or four times - figuring we would catch it and return it to the neighbor the following day.
    That son of a gun started coming to Roy, and then growled at him. Ungrateful beast. So, Roy got a big old thick stick, and decided he was just going to catch the dog and be done with it. Roy crossed the road, and went up to the dog, and it growled at him, and lunged at him. So, Roy wacked it with the stick, just as I put the floodlight on. Well, the big old stick broke, and Roy came hauling hinny towards the house, as the big black dog with her 2 cubs chased after him. She did turn around and go back across the road, however.

    Round 2 in a day or two............................................... ...


    Beth

    "Irony is the rule"

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    MRS. O,
    THANKS FOR THE NOTE ABOUT THE SIGHTS.... THEY ARE SMOOTH, HOWEVER; THE HAND GRIP IS MORE LIKE A STUDED SNOW TIRE!

    THE BEAR STORY IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY DANGERS THAT HAPPENED TO US OVER THE YEARS AS WE SEARCHED FOR THE MINE. THERE WERE MANY GOOD TIMES AS WELL.

    THE STORY WITH ALL OF IT'S UPS AND DOWNS, WILL NOT GO UN-REMEMBERED BY MY FAMILY
    AND IF I CAN FIND DOCUMENTATION OR COLABORATION ON A FEW S/S I WILL BE ABLE TO FINISH AND PUBLISH THE BOOK.

    WHEN DONE I HOPE ALL OF MY NEW-FOUND FRIENDS HERE ON TN WILL ENJOY READING IT. THE ENDING WILL BE A SHOCKER. I PROMISE.

    I LOOK FORWARD TO READING THE REST OF YOUR STORY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE OLD TIME CLIFF-HANGERS.


    MIKEL
    ....JESUS IS LORD.
    ...................THE BIBLE IS GOD'S WORD.
    .................................. HEAVEN IS MY REAL HOME.


    THAT'S JUST THE WAY I WAS RAISED TO SEE THE WORLD.

    REALLY, I'M NOT SHOUTING. I HAVE A VISUAL PERCEPTION PROBLEM, AND TYPING IN ALL CAPS HELPS ME TO PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE. IF I EVER NEED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO ANYTHING I'LL MAKE IT BOLD SO IT STANDS OUT. I MEAN NO HARM. #/;0)~

  15. #30
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    Ok - just so you know Mike - that WAS a joke!!

    Could you do me a big favor - stop writing in all capital letters - its difficult for me to read. (old eyes).

    Beth
    "Irony is the rule"

 

 
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