There is an old saying never be so sure of your self that you do not at least stop to listen to what the other person may have to say.
So, here is what I have found out!
From records or letters by Friar Marcos de Niza, Francisco Vazquez de Coronado, Nuno de Guzman (President of New Spain), and Don
Antonio Mendoza (Viceroy in Mexico City) between from 1530 - 1539.
Coronado and Niza were told of a very rich place called Topira, which Coronado believed was really the region called Topia. He says in a
secret letter to Mendoza about the details and visit. In fact the region of Topia is on the maps of the time. It lists the three major
mines. These do not appear again after the 1686 uprising. There is no more Topia region! A later Topia mission does appear, but
no wheres near the original region and mines. I believe the later Topia Mission which does happen to be west of Durango at the
head waters of a river is the mission people are now locating. I can show anybody interested where the original Topia is if they are
interested. I will not post any more info on the net than what i have posted. To get any real info I will be happy to meet you over a
cup of coffee near Tucson or Arizona at your convience.
One additional quote per Coronado's letter to Mendoza. "I believe the legend of the Seven Cities of Cibola may have originated fromTopia because of the vast gold wealth". I did say originally three mines, this is an error it should have been three cities.
I believe it was Marcos who stated the people had such an abundance of gold being used worthlessly in their homes for idols
etc. But the indians agreed to trade their gold to the spanish for items they needed.
FYI- I am a retired telecommunications support tech. To put any real info in a forum like this or any other network place
you might as well go out your front door and shout it to the world. Ask San's or NSA! Sorry but I have worked to long
with the net.
I have always only searched under Tayopa in the past. I would like to thank Oroblanco here for the suggestion of using other close names!
Sorry also ain't really newby just new handle after a number of years away! Also all info from me is actually free! Having lived in Mexico for a couple of years I know the info is more relevent to Oroblanco or Don jose de La Mancha than to me or some one not a Mexican National.
So, here is what I have found out!
From records or letters by Friar Marcos de Niza, Francisco Vazquez de Coronado, Nuno de Guzman (President of New Spain), and Don
Antonio Mendoza (Viceroy in Mexico City) between from 1530 - 1539.
Coronado and Niza were told of a very rich place called Topira, which Coronado believed was really the region called Topia. He says in a
secret letter to Mendoza about the details and visit. In fact the region of Topia is on the maps of the time. It lists the three major
mines. These do not appear again after the 1686 uprising. There is no more Topia region! A later Topia mission does appear, but
no wheres near the original region and mines. I believe the later Topia Mission which does happen to be west of Durango at the
head waters of a river is the mission people are now locating. I can show anybody interested where the original Topia is if they are
interested. I will not post any more info on the net than what i have posted. To get any real info I will be happy to meet you over a
cup of coffee near Tucson or Arizona at your convience.
One additional quote per Coronado's letter to Mendoza. "I believe the legend of the Seven Cities of Cibola may have originated fromTopia because of the vast gold wealth". I did say originally three mines, this is an error it should have been three cities.
I believe it was Marcos who stated the people had such an abundance of gold being used worthlessly in their homes for idols
etc. But the indians agreed to trade their gold to the spanish for items they needed.
FYI- I am a retired telecommunications support tech. To put any real info in a forum like this or any other network place
you might as well go out your front door and shout it to the world. Ask San's or NSA! Sorry but I have worked to long
with the net.
I have always only searched under Tayopa in the past. I would like to thank Oroblanco here for the suggestion of using other close names!
Sorry also ain't really newby just new handle after a number of years away! Also all info from me is actually free! Having lived in Mexico for a couple of years I know the info is more relevent to Oroblanco or Don jose de La Mancha than to me or some one not a Mexican National.
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