El Naranjal

[djui5]

FOOD!

Maybe she could teach my wife to cook....

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[Ed T]

[Ed T]

Seeing that I am a tenderfoot, I could not get the pics of the ore to post... SORRY

[djui5]

Here are Ed's pics!

[Ed T]

Thank you Randy.

[Ed T]

Has anyone in here ever heard of this location possibly being located in the espinaso del diablo area between Mazatlan and Durango?

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI: Not sure with the data given so far, but that is Deeeep canyon / hiiiiiigh country. A continuation of the Naranjo country.


Don Jose de La Mancha

[Ed T]

I am thinking about making a trip down south at the end of October. Maybe I will try to do a little prospecting while I am down there.

I am also thinking about sending in about 112 grams of material in for an assay of some of the material I have from one of the mines I have come across down there. I had taken in some several years ago in Sacramento, but the guy was a shady assayer. I took in some high grade ore, 4.86 lbs. with wire gold in it and the assayer told me that it ran 1.3 ozs. of gold per ton, but he would not tell me how much silver was in it. I had no idea that he only needed a small amount for the assay. He told me that I did not pay him for the silver part of the assay. When I had taken it in I asked him if it would cover the au, ag, pt, and cu and he told me that it would. But when it got down to it he only gave me the au at 1.3 oz. per ton. I paid him a little over $150 dollars and his assay definatly was not worth it. I have been sceptical of assays ever since. I hope this assay turns out better then the last, but I will not be doing the pt or cu part of the assay. Only the au and ag.

I will try to keep you all informed of the results.

Ed T

[Ed T]

Does anyone in here know of any good assayers located in Mexico? That is a good assayer located be Tijuana and Mazatlan.

Ed T

[Ed T]

Shoot, I can't believe that nobody in here knows of a reputable assayer in Mexico. The area between Tijuana and Mazatlan is a large area and there should be some assayers in that area someplace, besides I have already sent some of the ore in for an assay here in the U.S. I thought that with all of your expertise I thought that you might be able to help me on this one Real.

The only reason I am asking is because of an article I read in the International California Mining Journal. I suspect that there may be platinum in the ore and I would like to have a platinum assay performed on the ore. Due to the story I read in the ICMJ and my experience with the assayer I mentioned in Sacramento I would prefer to have the pt assay performed by a reputable assayer in Mexico.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Hey, isn't a real de minas an old expression for a mining district with several mines located in the district Real?

Ed T

P.s. I suspect the ag will be through the roof on the ore I sent in.

[Ed T]

After reading a story from a site posted by Real on the Aztec gold discussion board, I am sad to report that I have not found El Naranjal. According to the story, El Naranjal is located East of Los Mochis. My site is located far from there.

Well, on the bright side, at least I have found a nice site to play with. Maybe it is another famous lost Spanish mine, after all Durango is known for its gold. Isn't it?

Maybe one day I may try my hand at prospecting in the Los Mochis area.

Ed T

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HIO: Ed from what i understand Naranjal lies east of Cosala, Sinaloa, below Culican inside of Durango. on the rio San Lorenzo drainage.

Don Jose de La Mancha

[Ed T]

Well people, the results of the assay are in. There was no gold and very little silver in the ore sample I sent in for assay,.001ag. I guess that the mines that I came across were and are not worth further examination on my part. Maybe one day someone else will come across these mines and have better luck with them then I did.

I guess that I will move on to other prospects and forget all about these mines.

Ed T

[Ed T]

I guess that it turns out that the old mines that I came across turns out to iron mines. The second assay results were a little better then the first: Au 1.24 grams, Ag 18.54 grams, Al 52.6 lbs., Cu 1.7 lbs, Fe 339.6 lbs., Pb 32.66 lbs., Mg 177.4 lbs., Mn 6.58 lbs., K 49.6 lbs., S 44.6 lbs., Ti 17 lbs., and Zn 20.4 lbs. per ton. Oh, and Cr 1.68 lbs. per ton, maybe I should have had a Pt assay performed.

I guess that the old Spanish miners were mining iron from the old mines.

[Oroblanco]

Ed, finding old mines of any kind is always a neat feather for the cap - regardless of what they were mining. If you can locate the miners' camp(s) it is a site well worth doing some detecting around!

HOLA mi amigo Real de Tayopa!

Good luck and good hunting to you friends, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.

Oroblanco

[Ed T]

Oro,

I was thinking about doing some detecting around the site of one of the old fallen trees that is in the general area of two of the old mines. I have changed my plans on the date of my trip down there, I am now planning on going down there at the end of December for Christmas and I am planning on staying there about two weeks. That way I can say Feliz Navidad y Prospero Ano Nuevo.

I am planning on taking a trip to one of the mines also and I will try doing some detecting near the entrance to the mine. I have not really noticed any camp in the general area, it is in fairly wooded area. Also my father in law tells me that some of the mines were worked by a prospector back in the 60's. He also tells me that there was once a water wheel in the area of the Real de Minas. Maybe I should try doing some detecting in that general area.

I have not come across any arrastras or furnaces as of yet. I have been told that there were some at one time, but they were destroyed by someone at some point.

I will try to keep you all informed as to my finds.

Ed T

[Oroblanco]

Hi Ed,
I would not expect to find any arrastras remaining, most of the time they were torn apart when mining was done, or even on a periodic basis in order to clean out the cracks in between the stones of any accumulated gold/silver. Even if the original miners left the arrastra(s) un-touched, any later prospector that happened across it would almost certainly have torn it to pieces with the idea of cleaning the cracks as mentioned. If you could locate even where an arrastra had existed it would be well worth going over once or thrice with your best detector.

Unless the mines are located within walking distance of a village, there almost has to be one or more camps nearby, generally close to water and easily defensible.

Definitely it is worth your while to return, and spend some time doing in-depth searching. You never know just what you will find!) Good luck and good hunting to you, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.

Oroblanco

[lamar]

Dear group;
NARANJAL means ORANGE GROVE or ORANGE ORCHID in Spanish.
Your friend;
LAMAR

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Good Morning Lamar: 'That is correct, so named because the Gold was alloyed with copper giving it an orangh coloration.

Don Jose de La Mancha

[lamar]

Dear Real de Tayopa;
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I was wondering why the site was known as Naranjal, since wild oranges weren't native to the area, to the best of my recollection anyway. Also, northern Mexico is quite famous for it rose colored gold. All of Mexicos' centenarios are struck using that pecular rose gold. I think it's perhaps the most beautifully colored natural gold in the world.
Your friend;
LAMAR